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Old 10-22-2012, 03:13 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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Would you prefer being just considered a part of the collective instead?
I would prefer you wrote sentences that made sense.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I would prefer you wrote sentences that made sense.
I can't help you with comprehension, but the least I can ask is whether you can (at least) count sentences in my first post to you:
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Why do you call self a liberal? I would hate to be counted with people like you. Please stick with what you're: An authoritarian on social issues (which is what radical Islamists are as well).
Here's your homework:
- List differences of America's right wing from Afghanistan's right wing, on social issues. Consider: social safety net, women, significance of religion on government, homosexuality.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:47 PM
 
Location: San Diego California
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I can't help you with comprehension, but the least I can ask is whether you can (at least) count sentences in my first post to you:


Here's your homework:
- List differences of America's right wing from Afghanistan's right wing, on social issues. Consider: social safety net, women, significance of religion on government, homosexuality.
Here is your homework:
Go back and read the posts and get a clue. The Taliban want the whole world to live under their rules.
so do liberals, and so do many so called conservatives. That is why I am a libertarian. I believe people have the right to do as they wish provided it does not harm anyone else. I also believe I have the right to not participate in your social engineering and to be forced to pay taxes and to support programs I do not believe in.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:59 PM
 
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The only reason these "isms" have been able to flourish is because we've lost our way spiritually.
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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And who are we at war with? Terrorists? Who declared this war? The same people who declared a war on drugs, and a war on poverty?
Congress authorized the war on terrorism, as constitutionally required.

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The country has been in a state of war since Korea, which Truman never officially received congressional approval for.
You are correct. Congress never authorized the use of military force against North Korea in 1950, however, Congress did authorize appropriations to fund the war that the UN declared. And yes, we are still in a state of war with North Korea although there has been a cease fire since 1953.

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Since then we have had Viet Nam, Panama, Kosovo, Panama, Iraq, and Afghanistan none of which the citizens had one bit of say in, or control of.
In Vietnam, Panama, Kosovo, Iraq (twice), Haiti, and Afghanistan Congress did authorize the use of military force. As you pointed out earlier, the US is a Republic and therefore citizens have no say in the acts created by Congress.

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Every government office and court flies a gold fringe flag which is a “military flag” in recognition of that.
The congress no longer is required to give its approval for war because we are no longer a Republic of the people, and after all congress can still be influenced to some degree by their constituents unlike the White House, and Supreme Court who do for the most part whatever they want despite public opinion.
Congress is constitutionally required to give their approval before use of any military force against another nation (which is why the War Powers Act of 1973 is unconstitutional). Article I, Section 8, Clause 11 of the US Constitution states:
[Congress shall have the power] To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
Only a democracy concerns itself with public opinion, not a republican form of government. In a Republic the representatives are suppose to act, in some cases, contrary to public opinion. Particularly when that public opinion infringes upon the rights of the minority. The very reason the US is a Republic, and not a democracy, is to prevent the tyranny of the majority.
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Old 10-22-2012, 04:23 PM
 
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We have learned the difference between a Republic with a Democratic voting process and a Direct Democracy...

What we still are, and will forever be hung up on, is that the Constitution is and forever will be interpreted.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:59 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Actually, what he posted was not true. See my prior post.
That's debatable until some fact checks are preformed. There is no disagreement over the US being a Republic , right? Then the question is how a Democracy which we are not, compares up to a Republic. Which we are......enough for now, debates are coming up !
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:14 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Sheesh, you folks in the US define a liberal different than any place else in the world that I know of....

Definition of liberal
adjective

a. Not limited to or by established, traditional, orthodox, or authoritarian attitudes, views, or dogmas; free from bigotry.
b. Favoring proposals for reform, open to new ideas for progress, and tolerant of the ideas and behavior of others; broad-minded. liberal - definition of liberal by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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Old 10-22-2012, 09:11 PM
 
Location: State of Superior
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Leave it to our friend from the north To remind us of what we really are. And to be in the future. Being a Liberal is a good thing....The right wing has drove many of us to loose sight that there is no shame in following the mandate of being a Liberal to wear the banner, the bumper sticker, the campaign buttons. Take stock my friends in the honor of our beliefs , our convictions and our compassion for mankind.
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Old 10-22-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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You do not know what you are saying, kinda like Mitt Romney. Your Motto about conspiring rings true. How in the world can you say all this stuff no one believes except very unworldly people who know little about Politics ,They just want a hook to hang their hat on. You are a little more knowing, but have an agenda : Your mission is to hijack this thread., right ?

The topic of this thread is Liberalism=Extremism.

I just posted video of this Cultism fanaticism over Obama, which ought to scare the beejesus out of anyone with at least two functioning brain cells.

And this is a prefect example of liberal-leftist-extremism. So how could that possibly contitute hijacking the thread? You make ZERO sense.
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