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As long as I don't physically harm you, kill you, or steal from you, I should be free under our own US Constitution, to do as I please, when I please. Live & let live!
Extremists of both sides share something with the Taliban, which is their belief that they are the only ones capable of making decisions for the rest of us. Conservative, liberal, whatever your beliefs are, taking those beliefs to the extreme without concern for other people's ideology is detrimental to society as a whole.
I used to be just as hoodwinked by this deceptive construct of American political Left-Democrat versus Right-Republican baloney as the next person, and as a consequence, also believed there existed an extreme left-liberal and an extreme right conservative construct, with moderates landing somewhere in the middle. That is the promoted paradigm, but is totally false construct for the purpose of deception, and doesn't explain what we actually see insofar as behavior and results.
A much more accurate construction does explain what we see occurring, and if all people could simply grasp this concept and overcome the "programming", all of us would be much better off, and we could all recognize the necessity for tolerance of others in order to preserve our own individual freedoms, with only very limited restrictions to the extent required to facilitate that result, and no more.
This longitudinal axis beginning at the far right represents total individual liberty free of any restraint whatsoever. At the far right, there is no government at all, and individual freedom reins supreme and the individual is under no restrictions whatsoever. This is sometimes referred to as total anarchy. And while this might be the ideal scenario most desirable for the individual, it would require a level of universal benevolence, honesty and integrity from all individuals in order to work, which simply doesn't exist in human nature, and therefore totally unworkable in practice.
As you move along the axis moving from right to left, each increment represents a decrease in individual liberty and freedom, and more restrictions on individual behavior as agreed to by the collective of all individuals, for the purpose of protecting all individual freedoms from being trampled by irresponsible behaviors that would negatively affect one's rights and freedoms. These restrictions are imposed by some central authority or governmental construct, ideally made up of individuals of the collective.
The United States was born in response to tyranny imposed by King George of England, which represented a far left, totalitarian Monarchy. The US Constitution, which established the framework for how our country would operate by law, focussed on a government of limited authority, while maximizing individual liberty to the greatest extent practical, recognizing that a certain amount of government regulation is necessary to ensure protection of liberty for everyone. On that same style axis, the USA represents the original constitutional government as envisioned by our founders, which leans heavily toward the right, as depicted below:
Total Gov't Control <--------------------------Middle----------USA---------->No Government
Over the years since adopting that constitution, there has been a slow but steady creeping movement toward the left, demonstrated by the expansion of government and it's imposition of greater restrictions on individual freedoms. Unfortunately, we now find ourselves way far to the left, as shown below:
Total Gov't Control <--New USA -----------------------------------------Old USA---------->No Government
It was this very situation that the founders anticipated would happen, and was the reason for creating the constitution to prevent this from occurring, by strictly limiting government powers. Just as it was recognized that some government regulation is necessary due to the nature of man, so too are the restrictions needed on government for the same reason, because government itself is made up of men.
With this basic understanding, one can easily see why extreme left wing ideology is self defeating and totally undesirable from ANYONE'S rational individual perspective, and those that embrace this ideology do so because they have been thoroughly deceived, or they are not intelligent enough to value their own freedom. It is certainly not a demonstration of intelligence or wisdom to advocate one's own subjugation under authoritarian rule, as is the very nature of today's liberal progressives and their constant push for the destruction of liberty, including their own, by their support of expanding government power and authority.
This deception also comprises the distortions in terms and meanings like "liberal" and "Conservative". The origin and ideology of our founders were no doubt "libertarian" or "classic liberalism" and right wing, based on the axis shown above ... yet today's "liberal" ideology is far left, and consequently, the exact opposite and furthest thing from "classic liberalism".
By today's definitions, "conservative" does indeed reflect the original right wing "classic liberal" ideology in theory, but in application, not so much. Today's "conservatives" are just extreme leftists, who are only separated from progressive liberal leftists by divisive political rhetoric on certain social policies to which they pander to their deceived audience, while having no intention of actually following through on promises.
So instead of being separated along a longitudinal axis of left --------- right, today's liberals and conservatives are all on the left, defined only by the causes and values they profess to support, and willing to impose on the opposition by authoritarian dictate. These various causes and values are, in reality, only the pretext to securing authoritarian rule by the authoritarians who gain support from the deceived masses on both sides of the ideological/social spectrum, by using their own prejudices and selfishness against them.
As the people fight and bicker and try to gain the upper hand on each other regarding inconsequential social issues, the authoritarians are happy to sit back and observe, as each side attempts to impose their will on the other ... herding themselves into a totalitarian state in which individual liberty no longer exists for anyone, and the authoritarians secure total control over everyone.
Keep playing that game, and that will be the outcome. We're almost there now.
Radical Islam is liberal?. Thanks for the political science lesson.
Political science lesson #1 .... everything you were taught in political science was untrue, and deliberately designed to keep you in a mushroom state.
Any and all forms of collective control over the individual is left wing authoritarianism by whatever label that authoritarianism choses to disguise itself by.
China's communism under Mao was totalitarianism, and leftist
Russia's communism under Stalin was totalitarianism, and leftist
Nazi Germany's fascism under Hitler was totalitarianism, and leftist.
Italy's fascism under Mussolini was totalitarianism, and leftist.
Islamic Fundamentalism (which is not just religion, but a total system of governing) is totalitarianism, and leftist
Old World Christianity headquartered in Rome, who exercised it's authority over the Monarchies was totalitarianism, and leftist.
The creation of the United States was a unique construct in response to totalitarianism of the British Monarchy and of the Vatican in Rome, and was right wing liberal (LIBERTY), which declared the rights of the individual people are preeminent.
The progressive liberal movement in the United States has pushed the country far to the left, and in the opposite direction of it's original design and intent .... to the extent that we have such absurd laws as to regulate an organic farmer ... refuse to allow non-corporate unpasteurized milk .... laws against even the collection of rain water ... or the right to grow certain plants .... all things that the founding fathers would be appalled to see occurring today.
Now, this probably doesn't sit well with the left wing liberals today ... being associated with totalitarian tyrants and despots ... but that is what you are, whether you realize it or not, and whether you like it or not. And if you don't like it ... stop promoting it, and return to believing in individual liberty again, as it really is in your best interests to do ... you'll just need to first admit your mistake, and choose to correct it. As JFK once quoted a wise man ... "a mistake only becomes an error when you refuse to correct it".
If it restricts, or alters anyone's freedom, it is not Conservative by any means, no matter who wants to impose it.
Anti-abortion laws. Violation of separation of church and state. Voter ID laws. Mandatory HPV inoculations. Creationist "theories" taught in school. Gay Marriage/Civil Union rights.
Anti-abortion laws. Violation of separation of church and state. Voter ID laws. Mandatory HPV inoculations. Creationist "theories" taught in school. Gay Marriage/Civil Union rights.
What a fine promotion of authoritarianism, born of left wing tortured logic that has convinced itself that such ideals actually champion liberty, when the exact opposite is the case.
Our constitutional government does support the idea of laws, just so you know. And laws are necessary to defend individual liberty and freedom from the not so honest or not so intelligent who might violate our liberties, either purposely or not.
So let's go down the list ...
Anti-abortion laws - in all just and civil societies, killing people for any reason other than self defense is considered a crime .... which includes children ... born or unborn ... if they have a heartbeat, they are alive and because they are individuals, have the individual right to be protected from left wing murderers disguised as pro-choice advocates, just as we all have the right to life. Nobody has the freedom to "choose" to kill someone else ... and it's sad that so many could possibly be confused about that very basic principle of civilized, lawful, decent behavior. The fact is, it is the mark of a deviate personality that lacks the very basic level of human compassion that could consider the killing of children to be a simple right of choice, for no other reason than convenience. And this is not a religious issue or decision .... it's just a humane decision... unless one needs religion to convince them not to kill children for convenience.
Violation of the Separation of Church and State - there is, in reality no such thing in our constitution. The 1st Amendment states: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof ...." Only an idiot would fail to see how this is a restriction placed on congress, and not on the people .... nor is it remotely reasonable for anyone to believe that the government should or can ban the display of religious symbols in public without DIRECTLY violating the part that says it cannot "prohibit the free exercise thereof". Only a twisted, backward operating mind could think that prohibiting the display of religion is actually supporting the free exercise thereof requirement.
Voter ID Laws - the constitutional right to vote in the election of our representatives is reserved for citizens, and not offered criminal invaders for reasons so obvious, even the least bright among us should immediately understand. Therefore, it seems only logical and reasonable that one should show eligibility, otherwise, you'd have foreign non-citizens corrupting our democratic process. Even Costco won't allow you to shop there without your membership card. This is just the defense of our collective rights as citizens, and government's obligation to protect the integrity of that process.
Mandatory Vaccinations - no one should ever be forced to accept unwanted medical treatment. If you don't have the right to decide what goes into your own body, you have no rights at all.
"Creationist Theories Taught in School" - what ever is taught in school should be decided upon by those attending the school, and in the case of minors ... their parents. The moment the government decides to require one thing be taught, while banning another thing, you no longer have "education" ... that is called "indoctrination". And this comes full circle back to your gross misunderstanding of the 1st Amendment, and ignoring how government bans on religious matters is a direct violation of the "free exercise thereof" REQUIREMENT.
Gay Marriage/Civil Unions - in a free society, such unions should be the sole decision of the parties involved, free of any government intrusion or need of government permission. By demanding laws to recognize "Gay Marriage", and grant "permission" for Gays to marry, you are granting to the government the authority to make such decisions that it otherwise has no authority to decide, one way or the other.
In this regard, and in all of the other matters above, the confusion over these very simple matters of freedom, are the reasons why liberals are their own, and our worst enemies. Liberals either don't realize this because they aren't very bright, or do realize it, and just don't really like liberty very much.
You really don't want to get into a who is more ignorant contest, do you? Maybe all that liberal kool-aide prevents you from understanding what a bad idea that really is:
You really don't want to get into a who is more ignorant contest, do you? Maybe all that liberal kool-aide prevents you from understanding what a bad idea that really is:
What a fine promotion of authoritarianism, born of left wing tortured logic that has convinced itself that such ideals actually champion liberty, when the exact opposite is the case.
Um... I'm not sure what you are trying to say. The original quote said that if it restricts freedom or alter's freedom, it's is not Conservative. I then listed several things that are championed by Conservative Forces that can be seen as doing exactly that.
I'm not sure how you figured out that these are Liberal Programs "born of tortured logic."
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