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Old 10-23-2012, 07:30 PM
 
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Obama calls Israel "occupiers," and recognizes Hamas. Who's smoking that crack pipe? Look in the mirror...
Seriously? Please post a cite. Please post a cite where Obama said that Israel is not a sovereign nation and does not have a right to exist.
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:30 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Do you know the Israelis are NOT AT ALL happy with GOP and their idiocy regarding Israel. They pretend to be their friends, and every time they are in power, Israel gets screwed?
Definitely not as much as they did under the Clinton Admin and now are under the Obama Admin...

US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation*:*Why was the Bush administration so much less involved than the Clinton administration in Israel-Palestine diplomacy?
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Old 10-23-2012, 07:55 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Seriously? Please post a cite. Please post a cite where Obama said that Israel is not a sovereign nation and does not have a right to exist.
Obama? It goes much deeper than that. It's Democrats...


Jerusalem vote mars Democratic convention - YouTube
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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JERUSALEM (AP) — Former U.S. President Jimmy Carter said Monday during a visit to Jerusalem that the prospect of an Israel-Palestinian peace accord is "vanishing," blaming Israeli settlement of the West Bank.
Carter, a longtime critic of Israeli policies, called the current situation "catastrophic" and blamed Israel for the growing isolation of east Jerusalem from the West Bank. He said a Palestinian state has become "unviable."
"We've reached a crisis stage," said Carter, 88. "The two-state solution is the only realistic path to peace and security for Israel and the Palestinians."

"Carter is currently on a two-day visit leading a delegation known as the "The Elders," which includes the former prime minister of Norway and the former president of Ireland. The group met with Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas.
But they didn't meet with Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu. Carter said that the delegation didn't request a meeting because they haven't been granted meetings on previous visits."

Jimmy Carter says Mideast peace is 'vanishing' - Yahoo! News

Jimmy Carter is an idiot. the only thing he really cares about is that he is no longer the worst potus since woodrow wilson. now hussein takes the cake on that count.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:08 PM
 
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Obama? It goes much deeper than that. It's Democrats...


Jerusalem vote mars Democratic convention - YouTube
Yep, waisted 3 minutes of my life to find out that you were wrong again. Of course, there was no suspense.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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There are examples right in this thread...
I wrote 'Zionist', not 'Jew'. Get some glasses.
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Old 10-23-2012, 08:56 PM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado
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A negotiated settlement between Fatah, Hamas and the Zionist leadership is the obvious answer but won't happen under the current Israeli government. And why should the Zionists negotiate? They have the support of Congress and both presidential candidates, they kill with impunity and colonize remaining Palestinian areas at will, with no military opposition. There is no one to stop them.
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:39 AM
 
Location: The Ranch in Olam Haba
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A negotiated settlement between Fatah, Hamas and the Zionist leadership is the obvious answer but won't happen under the current Israeli government.
What would you consider a fair negotiated settlement? What would Fatah & Hamas bring to the table to negotiate with (for this query the US & Iran don't exist)?
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Old 10-24-2012, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Definitely not as much as they did under the Clinton Admin and now are under the Obama Admin...
You keep repeating these false claims, and I just showed you how Bush screwed Israel royally, and repeatedly, and you still act like it never happened.

Do you realize that it was GOP and Bush admin who made Hamas the legit ruling party in Palestine?

Do you realize it was the GOP and Bush admin who bullied Israel into pulling out of Gaza, stating illegal settlements as the reason?

Do you know how many Israeli settlers lost their homes because of GOP/Bush?

Do you realize that as soon as Israel pulled out, the militants moved in and starter lobbing rockets into Israel?
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Old 10-24-2012, 05:02 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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This is the same Jimmy Carter that called Iran and the Shah "an island of stability"......remember?
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