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Old 10-24-2012, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Do you really believe that adding 10s of millions more people onto an already overburned healthcare insurance system will make things cheaper? If 10 million more people bought gas today, than yesterday, would that make the price go down? If 10,000 more people suddenly wanted to go to the FSU vs VT game on Thursday night, would the price go down? Seriously liberals, you can't tell me you really think this way.

Do you really think Obama's inflationary spending policies help the middle class in a time of stagnant wages? Do you really think Obama, with the Benghazi debacle, thousands of dead civilians as the result of his drones is good with foreign policy? Do you really think Obama, who extended the Patriot act is the chanmpion of civil liberties and peace?


This has to be some cruel twist of revenge for all those years the right defended Bush regardless of what he did because this administration's acts and the left's defense of it is simply illogical otherwise.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Imaginary Figment
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Do you really believe that adding 10s of millions more people onto an already overburned healthcare insurance system will make things cheaper? If 10 million more people bought gas today, than yesterday, would that make the price go down?
I remember why I don't hang out here that often anymore: Strawman arguments derived for pure fantasy and some of the worst analogies ever.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I remember why I don't hang out here that often anymore: Strawman arguments derived for pure fantasy and some of the worst analogies ever.
I wish people would quit misappropriating the term "strawman." All you're doing is avoiding the question you have no reasonable answer to.
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:58 PM
 
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I think they just like the idea of free healthcare.

It does sound nice, until you start asking questions about how it is all going to work and get paid for.

I forsee the cost of healthcare going up as greedy medical practitioners start billing whatever they want, knowing the government will pay for it. Many of those same people vote republican and say they hate moochers whilst gaming the system. Just my .02
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Old 10-24-2012, 09:59 PM
 
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I wish people would quit misappropriating the term "strawman." All you're doing is avoiding the question you have no reasonable answer to.
Horrible analogies would apply to your post, in case you weren't aware.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:00 PM
 
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Do you really believe that adding 10s of millions more people onto an already overburned healthcare insurance system will make things cheaper? If 10 million more people bought gas today, than yesterday, would that make the price go down? If 10,000 more people suddenly wanted to go to the FSU vs VT game on Thursday night, would the price go down? Seriously liberals, you can't tell me you really think this way.

Do you really think Obama's inflationary spending policies help the middle class in a time of stagnant wages? Do you really think Obama, with the Benghazi debacle, thousands of dead civilians as the result of his drones is good with foreign policy? Do you really think Obama, who extended the Patriot act is the chanmpion of civil liberties and peace?


This has to be some cruel twist of revenge for all those years the right defended Bush regardless of what he did because this administration's acts and the left's defense of it is simply illogical otherwise.
I can't believe 10,000 people period would want to go to a VTech game.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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I think they just like the idea of free healthcare.

It does sound nice, until you start asking questions about how it is all going to work and get paid for.

I forsee the cost of healthcare going up as greedy medical practitioners start billing whatever they want, knowing the government will pay for it. Many of those same people vote republican and say they hate moochers whilst gaming the system. Just my .02
There's something remarkable about people claiming an initiative predicated upon forcing people who haven't paid for their health care costs in the past now having to pay as being some sort of "free giveaway."
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:04 PM
 
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Horrible analogies would apply to your post, in case you weren't aware.
Why is it a bad analogy?

Sounded like he is saying demand has a place in determining price. If more people are willing(able) to pay, wouldn't it stand to reason that those who control the resource would raise the price? Greed being the natural reaction. Do you think that the health care industry will somehow behave differently than any other component of a free market system?

I might be ignorant and am looking forward to enlightenment. I don't know these things, Will they have in place a method to prevent price gouging?

I see education doing this. They know the government will pay, so they keep raising tuition.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Horrible analogies would apply to your post, in case you weren't aware.
Higher demand driving up prices isn't an analogy, it's called a law of economics.
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Old 10-24-2012, 10:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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I can't believe 10,000 people period would want to go to a VTech game.
I can't believe it either, but here we have 80+ consecutive home sell outs.
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