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Old 02-03-2013, 08:14 AM
 
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The neighborhood bully called for backup, and then didn't wait for it to arrive.

 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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(Sorry about going off topic for a minute)You know damned well I am right and have no argument, so you pull the race card one more time. The black underclass(rioters) will be the downfall of blacks in this country and blacks know it, but what amazes me is the support of this behavior by upperclass blacks.
Lol. Upper class "blacks" don't support this behavior.

Haven't you noticed that the black community is highly fragmented.

Some of us support Zimmerman... Race notwithstanding.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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This. ^^

Zimmerman's stupid and aggressive actions caused the death of an unarmed teenager.

I don't think any of us think he intentionally set out to kill someone that night, but it was HIS careless and reckless behavior that set the chain of events into motion that did result in a death and there should be consequences for that.
You mean Martin's aggressive actions?

Following someone isn't illegal or wrong.

And private citizens ARE SUPPOSED to o do that. Its only relatively recently that people stopped caring and got last and rely on the police for everything....
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:24 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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His nose is bleeding in that photo. Noses bleed with very little trauma. We don't know if his nose was broken.
No actually his nose looks broken, to you see the slant to the cartilage in his nose?
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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You mean Martin's aggressive actions?

Following someone isn't illegal or wrong.

And private citizens ARE SUPPOSED to o do that. Its only relatively recently that people stopped caring and got last and rely on the police for everything....
Women might have a different viewpoint on this.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:25 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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The neighborhood bully called for backup, and then didn't wait for it to arrive.
I'm sure if he had called a little louder before he was shot he would have gotten the help he wanted from some other hoodlums.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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No actually his nose looks broken, to you see the slant to the cartilage in his nose?
Are you an ENT or something? Swelling can make a nose look misshapen. Noses do not break that easily. We usually advise our patients to wait until the swelling subsides a little before coming in for evaluation. Apparently the doctor he did go to couldn't tell for sure, yet you can?
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:28 AM
 
Location: Soldotna
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Are you an ENT or something? Swelling can make a nose look misshapen. Noses do not break that easily. We usually advise our patients to wait until the swelling subsides a little before coming in for evaluation. Apparently the doctor he did go to couldn't tell for sure, yet you can?
What do you mean noises don't break easily? A proper punch to the face can break a noise quicker than most other bones aside from your jaw and temple.

Lol. Bones do break pretty easily. Ask your average male human...
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:33 AM
 
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Are you an ENT or something? Swelling can make a nose look misshapen. Noses do not break that easily. We usually advise our patients to wait until the swelling subsides a little before coming in for evaluation. Apparently the doctor he did go to couldn't tell for sure, yet you can?
I'm a guy who's had my nose broken a few times, I know the look.
 
Old 02-03-2013, 08:39 AM
 
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You mean Martin's aggressive actions?

Following someone isn't illegal or wrong.

And private citizens ARE SUPPOSED to o do that. Its only relatively recently that people stopped caring and got last and rely on the police for everything....
Just because something isn't illegal does NOT mean that it is not wrong. Clearly, the final result of following Martin shows that it was indeed "wrong."

It seems you are sorely mistaken about people being "lazy" and relying on the police to deal with (resolve) dangerous situations. Smart people know that that is exactly the prudent thing to do. Only people who want to be a "hero" or to impress the police take things into their own hands. Some folks seem to get real life and movies mixed up. Zimmerman had a GUN. Of course it was legal for him to carry a gun, however, it was definitely wrong for him to follow Martin and kill him. Following someone at night, when there are no other persons out walking around, in the rain, first in your car, then getting out and following him on foot (KNOWING YOU'VE GOT A GUN) actually goes beyond "wrong" IMO and goes to a level much higher, which is AGGRESSIVE and STUPID. In this case, the police told Zimmerman they were on their way, it was a dangerous situation, and Zimmerman chose to pursue Martin on his own. WRONG, STUPID, and DANGEROUS. Even though "technically" following him was not illegal, it turned out to be very "wrong" by anyone's standards.

Some people seem to be incapable of taking into consideration all of the circumstances, and make the really sad mistake of fragmenting the crime and fragmenting the law.
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