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Darn that Zimmerman for repeatedly slamming his head into Martin's fists.... After all he was just minding his own business
FYI Idiots who keep posting that no DNA was found on Martin's hands, that is incorrect. There has been nothing released about DNA except the info on Zimmerman.
True, the state might be withholding some crucial evidence indicating gz provoked the attack, threw the 1st punch, or couldn't have had a reasonable fear of suffering serious physical injury. You're guessing they do. I'm guessing they don't, and anything they haven't yet made public is exculpatory.
GZ following tm is what caused tm to punch him. Whether he was frightened or p'od or something else, who knows.
Here's the thing, I don't know if it's absolutely necessary to show who actually initiated the physical encounter. A jury could look at the totality of Zimmerman's behavior and decide that he was not acting in self-defense; that his confrontation with Martin was completely and utterly avoidable. It's complicated because on the one hand, the defense can claim that Zimmerman's acting lawfully, which he may have been up to a point, after which the circumstances and facts are unclear. At the same time, the prosecution can argue (persuasively, I think) that Zimmerman's conduct made a confrontation likely, or that the confrontation itself was largely unavoidable and that deadly force was not initially required but mainly required because of Zimmerman's series of bad decisions. This case will come down to which argument the jury finds more credible. The judges, of course, have a hand to play here, too. They are qualified to determine whether cases can even be legitimately argued in the first place, and if the courts decide that SYG prevents a legal case, then that could be that.
I'm noticing a trend. It seems lately, the Trayvonistas are making up excuses as to why Zimm will walk. Do they see the handwriting on the wall? Will they ever admit they just plain didn't have a clue what they were spewing about?
Of course if he does, it will be someone's fault other than Sweet Little Tray. Bad prosecution. Bad evidence. Bad jury.
This is such fun to watch!
All the Trayvonistas should be sentenced to watch 12 Angry Men:
You have to be blind to reality to argue that the injuries to Zimmerman's face were not caused by Martin. Hardly worth debating with those who are so blind. I can guarantee the prosecution will not make that argument.
You have to be blind to reality to argue that the injuries to Zimmerman's face were not caused by Martin. Hardly worth debating with those who are so blind. I can guarantee the prosecution will not make that argument.
Neither Zimmerman's blood or DNA were found on Martin's hands or the sleeves or cuffs of his jacket and shirt. How could Martin punch Zimmerman repeatedly, and also hold his hand over Zimmerman's mouth and nose, which Zimmerman claims, and not get any of Zimmerman's DNA or blood on his hands or sleeves/cuffs ?
The injury to Zimmerman's nose could also be from hitting himself in the face from the recoil of the gun.
Neither Zimmerman's blood or DNA were found on Martin's hands or the sleeves or cuffs of his jacket and shirt.
The injury to Zimmerman's nose could also be from hitting himself in the face from the recoil of the gun.
Why are you people so uninformed????
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State evidence released today in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case shows new details from a state crime lab that found Zimmerman's DNA on Trayvon Martin, the teenager he shot to death, and Trayvon's DNA on him.
What they didn't find was this:
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But the gun that Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon that night – a gun that Zimmerman told police the teenager had reached for - revealed no evidence that Trayvon touched it
Reaching for something doesn't mean it was touched!
Come on people, let's try to be truthful in this. Too many people either don't know what they are talking about or are just biased and believe what they want to believe despite the facts.
Why are you people so uninformed????
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State evidence released today in the George Zimmerman second-degree murder case shows new details from a state crime lab that found Zimmerman's DNA on Trayvon Martin, the teenager he shot to death, and Trayvon's DNA on him.
Come on people, let's try to be truthful in this. Too many people either don't know what they are talking about or are just biased and believe what they want to believe despite the facts.
"The only place where Zimmerman’s blood and DNA are present is Martin’s shirt, which he was wearing underneath the hooded sweatshirt." These bloodstains are consistent with dripped blood from Zimmerman’s wounds as he leaned forward above Martin’s body either before or after the shot, or transferred blood from Zimmerman’s hands as he handled Martin’s body.
There was no Zimmerman DNA in the fingernail cuttings from Martin, nor on Martin's hands.
So the DNA results do not support Zimmerman's contention that Martin was beating him so that he feared for his life.
SourD you should really go read the following blog by a criminal defense attorney who reviews all the evidence available.
"The only place where Zimmerman’s blood and DNA are present is Martin’s shirt, which he was wearing underneath the hooded sweatshirt." These bloodstains are consistent with dripped blood from Zimmerman’s wounds as he leaned forward above Martin’s body either before or after the shot, or transferred blood from Zimmerman’s hands as he handled Martin’s body.
There was no Zimmerman DNA in the fingernail cuttings from Martin, nor on Martin's hands.
So the DNA results do not support Zimmerman's contention that Martin was beating him so that he feared for his life.
SourD you should really go read the following blog by a criminal defense attorney who reviews all the evidence available.
Here's another thing you Trayvonistas need to take into account. Fearing for one's life is subjective and different for every single person. It is not something written in stone. Something that I fear for my life about, someone else might not. All that matters is if ZIMMERMAN felt fear for his life. THAT'S IT!
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