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Old 10-28-2012, 10:32 AM
 
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There are probably many ways to look at it ,some might say the slaves freed them selves while White southerners went to war with their own countrymen and Government for $14.00 per month.
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Old 10-28-2012, 10:46 AM
 
Location: Yuma, Az
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I don't know how Muslims and blacks get into the OP. If anyone is keeping score, racially speaking, whites initiated slavery in the U.S. and they also abolished it. So I think that we score that 1 point in for, 1 point against.

I think underneath it all the OP is probably annoyed that white people is the only racial group that cannot publicly recognize and identify themselves by race, at least it is not politically correct. If that is the basis of the OP complaint, it is a valid observation, but largely an irrelevant one.
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:04 AM
 
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Were white families torn apart and sold in the slave markets? Just asking.
You must have missed the part about "indentured servitude".
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:05 AM
 
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh White People.

Three Cheers!
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Chris Rock had a joke.

It went something like this:

"It's funny how black men want to be congratulated for stuff that they are supposed to do. You see a black man saying something like 'I've never been to jail, I support my children, I don't sell drugs...' 'What do you want? A cookie? That's what you're supposed to do you ignorant *** mofo'."

So, my response to the op title is

"What do you want? A cookie? That's what they were supposed to do..."

(Won't finish cuz it'll get deleted...)
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Old 10-28-2012, 11:17 AM
 
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Yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaahh White People.

Three Cheers!
Very good! Perhaps the OP will now feel like white people have been adequately "celebrated" and will move on. We can only hope.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:04 PM
 
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while the forebears of their Black and Muslim classmates were busy fighting tooth and nail to keep the institution alive in other parts of the world? If it had have been Muslims and not Europeans who had abolished the slave trade, this would be the focus of much celebration and fanfare. It is only White children who are systematically stripped of their dignity and self-worth and made to loathe their history and their people. Only White children are publicly humiliated in such a way.
It's mostly because y'all are too busy trying to forget that slavery took place in the US in the first place. Just like y'all like to celebrate the cleaned-up version of MLK, you also like to celebrate the cleaned-up version of Memorial Day.

And frankly, most of the Union soldiers were not fighting to free the slaves - although most of the black Union soldiers sure were.

It's funny how so many people want to talk smack about black or Muslim Americans, but can't be bothered to do a smile Google search to see if what they're saying is right.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Many whites are racist. That's an unpleasant fact. But I don't know how anyone could study the history of slavery in the United States and not know that it was white abolitionists who played a key role in ending the institution, not to mention the hundreds of thousands of white soldiers who fought and died for that cause. There was no slave uprising, so it's obvious they didn't free themselves. I never had any problem as a child understanding that there were many whites who strongly believed slavery was wrong and that whites were the ones who fought the war that ended slavery, did you? How else could it have happened?



Yes, but whites were also the ones in this country who were buying and profiting off slave labor. There wouldn't have been any need for abolitionists otherwise, would there? No matter who was doing what in the rest of the world, you can't ignore the parts of our own history that are unflattering.

And why bring Muslims and 9/11 into a discussion about American slavery at all? By doing so, you and the OP are guilty of exactly the same kind of "tar everyone with the same brush" mentality that began this whole thread.

You do know that free blacks living in slave states were far more likely to own slaves than whites, right?

http://americancivilwar.com/authors/...laveowners.htm
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:20 PM
 
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You must have missed the part about "indentured servitude".
Understand what indentured servitude means. They were contracted to work to pay off their transportation to America but they would some day become citizens. Not exactly the same as being torn from your family and sold in the slave market.
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Old 10-28-2012, 12:41 PM
 
Location: Metro-Detroit area
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while the forebears of their Black and Muslim classmates were busy fighting tooth and nail to keep the institution alive in other parts of the world? If it had have been Muslims and not Europeans who had abolished the slave trade, this would be the focus of much celebration and fanfare. It is only White children who are systematically stripped of their dignity and self-worth and made to loathe their history and their people. Only White children are publicly humiliated in such a way.
Some would say that this post is the disjointled ramblings of the uneducated mind, it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

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It is only White children who are systematically stripped of their dignity and self-worth and made to loathe their history and their people. Only White children are publicly humiliated in such a way
Can anyone list any manner that white people have been stripped of any of their dignity and self worth in relation to the Civil War??

Can anyone list any systemic method used to make White People loathe their history??

Can anyone list any systemic method used to humiliate White Children??

O.P. are you suggesting that the Confederacy should be a National Holiday??..if you are, then we will have something rational to discuss no matter how moronic the idea.
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