Youngest voters turning conservative (generations, drugs, polls, death)

[jwiley]

Democrats losing the youngest voters, 42% of those 18-19 years old consider themselves conservative, just over 33% liberal. Sounds to me like they are tired of this generation spending their money.

news.yahoo.com/young-millennials-fiscal-conservatives-144054323--election.html

[TempesT68]

Originally Posted by jwiley

Democrats losing the youngest voters, 42% of those 18-19 years old consider themselves conservative, just over 33% liberal. Sounds to me like they are tired of this generation spending their money.

news.yahoo.com/young-millennials-fiscal-conservatives-144054323--election.html

You should read your own links before posting

"To be clear, polls show that President Barack Obama remains the favorite among 18- to 29-year-old registered voters, as he was in 2008. No one thinks the majority of young voters will support Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, in the Nov. 6 election."

[jwiley]

Originally Posted by TempesT68

You should read your own links before posting

"To be clear, polls show that President Barack Obama remains the favorite among 18- to 29-year-old registered voters, as he was in 2008. No one thinks the majority of young voters will support Romney, a former Massachusetts governor, in the Nov. 6 election."

I agree it does say that, but you probably should read a post before commenting on that post. I guess you are ignoring where I put the youngest voters, which are the 18-19 year olds who are not considering themselves conservatives?

[ellemint]

Originally Posted by jwiley

Democrats losing the youngest voters, 42% of those 18-19 years old consider themselves conservative, just over 33% liberal. Sounds to me like they are tired of this generation spending their money.

news.yahoo.com/young-millennials-fiscal-conservatives-144054323--election.html

That's because they are scared --- they are the children of all those people losing their jobs and having their homes foreclosed on, and they grew up during the financial crisis, and now a deep recession.

[Fiyero]

Originally Posted by jwiley

Democrats losing the youngest voters, 42% of those 18-19 years old consider themselves conservative, just over 33% liberal. Sounds to me like they are tired of this generation spending their money.

news.yahoo.com/young-millennials-fiscal-conservatives-144054323--election.html

I will also remind you this is talking about fiscal conservatives. Young voters are still overwhelmingly socially liberal. These people aren't turning into raging Republican theocrats like the rest of the older conservatives.

The problem, however, is young voters are oblivious to the fact that Republicans are not fiscally conservative in this country and haven't been for awhile. Republicans spend far more than Democratic presidents going back at least 30 years.

[jwiley]

Originally Posted by Fiyero

I will also remind you this is talking about fiscal conservatives. Young voters are still overwhelmingly socially liberal. These people aren't turning into raging Republican theocrats like the rest of the older conservatives.

The problem, however, is young voters are oblivious to the fact that Republicans are not fiscally conservative in this country and haven't been for awhile. Republicans spend far more than Democratic presidents going back at least 30 years.

I agree that republicans have moved away from fiscal conservatism, however the fact is that there are libertarians that are fiscal conservative, and that may be were they end up, which I do not think is bad for the country.

[Memphis1979]

Small government conservatives.

But the word "conservative" has been tied to the anti gay equality agenda, the anti choice agenda, and loads of other.

Lets not confuse real conservatism, with Republicanism.

[dub dub II]

I'm not 18 or 19 but I'm young and apparently I'm leaning epublican this time. Why?

It's not that I lean republican rather it's that my concerns are so outside what seems to be the mainstream discussion that neither party is of any value to me...

It just happens that republicans are more in tune with the issues that I'm most concerned with at this point. But I'm not anti gay, anti drug, anti abortion, pro fundamentalism, pro death penalty, pro capitalist or anything like that....

Yet, the republicans seem to address my concerns more...but neither party is adequate.

In my mind it's like the liberals are a human rights party and the republicans an economic party...and both are important...but at this time economic issues concern me more. In four years, if I'm economically comfortable, I could easily vote democrat...as I did last time.

Also, I don't understand why older people are so binarized in their politics. You vote, imo, with the appropriate context in mind and you forget about it and concentrate on your life...

That's my attitude on this topic..

I thin the coming generation isn't going to be very loyal to anyone but themselves. That is, politicians all suck, so unless you're selling what we want to buy, we simply won't buy it.

Put another way, I have no problem shopping at wallgreens if costco stops being the better option...it doesn't matter that I've shopped at costco for the last four years...

[Memphis1979]

Originally Posted by dub dub II I

I'm not 18 or 19 but I'm younf and apparently I lean republican. Why?

It's not that I lean republican rather it's that my concerns are so outside what seems to be the mainstream discussion that neither party is of any value to me...

It just happens that republicans are more in tune with the issues that I'm most concerned witb at this point. But I'm not anti gay, anti drug, anti abortion, pro fundamentalism, pro death penalty, pro capitalist or anything like that....

Yet, the republicans seem to address my concerns more...but neither adequately.

In my mind it's like the liberals are a human rights party and the republicans an economic party...and both are important...but at this time economic issues concern me more. In four years, if I'm economically comfortable, I could easily vote democrat...as I did last time.

Also, I don't understand why older people are so binarized in their politics. You vote, imo, with the appropriate context in mind and you forget about it and concentrate on your life...

That's my attitude on this topic..

I have to ask, what have Republicans done, and specifically the Republican nominee as President said, that shows you he and they are serious about the debt and deficit?

Because Romney was a good businessman, that makes him a good President? History proves that assumption dead wrong, every time.

Romney is saying he is going to lower tax rates, and increase spending, when we are already running a fiscal deficit. Doesn't add up.

And I'm not voting for Obama either. Just saying, the Republicans aren't some economic purist party who are suddenly fiscally smart.

[dub dub II]

Originally Posted by Memphis1979

I have to ask, what have Republicans done, and specifically the Republican nominee as President said, that shows you he and they are serious about the debt and deficit?

Because Romney was a good businessman, that makes him a good President? History proves that assumption dead wrong, every time.

Romney is saying he is going to lower tax rates, and increase spending, when we are already running a fiscal deficit. Doesn't add up.

And I'm not voting for Obama either. Just saying, the Republicans aren't some economic purist party who are suddenly fiscally smart.

You see, you're not thinking about it in the way I am. I don't care about republicans/democrats. My issues are, I need a good job, and I need to pay off my debt asap. Whoever does that for me gets my vote...

Neither will, more than likely, but I know Obama's America and it's not working for me. So I'll buy Mitt...give him his chance to screw me over...and in the next election I'll vote for whoever will address my then concerns...

All the while not expecting anything other than the bs that they'll inevitably serve up...

At the end of the day, it's every man for themselves. If that's not how it is with the older generations, that's the way it is with us. It's more or less war down here...

Look at what we're doing...guns, drugs, racism, shootings....and this is the norm for us. It's not going away...

For example; there was a 'shooting' at our campus (not really) and I wasn't surprised....no one was. That's just life these days...

Then another idiot was shot a gun off while he was drunk at 2 o'clock in the morning because he was angry at someone...

A big issue in my life right now is whether I'm going to need a gun just to protect myself. A lot of my friends are getting them/have them...and I don't trust them anymore...so I'm thinking about it.

And btw, my family is traditionally democratic.

So yeah, fiscally conservative? Not really...just 'how do I survive the next couple years?'