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Old 10-31-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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This is nothing more then another right wing tin foil conspiracy of "Ahhh! He's gunna take yer gunnnnnzzzz!!! He didn't take them the first time, but he sure will if he gets elected again!"

Let's look at the facts:

Willard lead the charge as governor when the federal assault weapons ban expired to extend them in his state permanently.

Quadrupled the fees for gun owners

Stated during his last failed presidential campaign, when he was slammed for being so anti-2nd amendment, he responded with "We do have strict gun laws in Massachusetts, I support them."

Willard also was so anti-2nd amendment the NRA refused to endorse him.

Obama? Hasn't done a single thing to infringe on freedom.

If 2nd amendment rights are someone's main concern, they would be an idiot to vote for Willard.

Oh boy, we've been over and over this, but you're still not getting it. Read the link. Pres. Obama is on record as supporting a total ban on semi-autos (except police & military) which he has never recanted. He "hasn't done a single thing" in his first term because he knew it was politically unwise. In his 2nd term, he's term limited out, so the political price will no longer be a factor.

Romney was anti-gun as Mass. gov but has moved to the right and individualism in many ways since then. We can argue whether it was a 'flip flop' or an honest converstion but the evidence is compelling that it was the latter. In particular, he chose a running mate with an unquestioned pro-gun record, while Obama chose Joe Biden, who claimed credit as the originator of the 'assault weapon ban' concept.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:25 PM
 
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Oh boy, we've been over and over this, but you're still not getting it. Read the link. Pres. Obama is on record as supporting a total ban on semi-autos (except police & military) which he has never recanted. He "hasn't done a single thing" in his first term because he knew it was politically unwise. In his 2nd term, he's term limited out, so the political price will no longer be a factor.

Romney was anti-gun as Mass. gov but has moved to the right and individualism in many ways since then. We can argue whether it was a 'flip flop' or an honest converstion but the evidence is compelling that it was the latter. In particular, he chose a running mate with an unquestioned pro-gun record, while Obama chose Joe Biden, who claimed credit as the originator of the 'assault weapon ban' concept.
It's downright laughable the excuses the right wingers come up with.

Willard = proven record of being strongly anti-2nd amendment, and has "taken yerr gunnnzzzzz!!" but he won't "take yerrrr gunzzz this time!"

Obama = done nothing to impede on freedom and stated he wont. If he was, he had a golden opportunity to do so after the Colorado and Wisconsin massacres. He hasn't "taken yeerrr gunnnzzz!" But sure will if he's elected again!
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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It's downright laughable the excuses the right wingers come up with.

Willard = proven record of being strongly anti-2nd amendment, and has "taken yerr gunnnzzzzz!!" but he won't "take yerrrr gunzzz this time!"

Obama = done nothing to impede on freedom and stated he wont. If he was, he had a golden opportunity to do so after the Colorado and Wisconsin massacres. He hasn't "taken yeerrr gunnnzzz!" But sure will if he's elected again!


I think we can all agree, there needs to be a DC massacre! For crimes against the Constitution and the freedom of the people.
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Old 10-31-2012, 08:51 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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It's downright laughable the excuses the right wingers come up with.

Willard = proven record of being strongly anti-2nd amendment, and has "taken yerr gunnnzzzzz!!" but he won't "take yerrrr gunzzz this time!"

Obama = done nothing to impede on freedom and stated he wont. If he was, he had a golden opportunity to do so after the Colorado and Wisconsin massacres. He hasn't "taken yeerrr gunnnzzz!" But sure will if he's elected again!
Actually not. You may have missed it but Obama created a stir just a couple weeks ago when he re-affirmed that he favors reimposition of the so-called "assault weapons" ban.
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban - ABC News

And Romney has taken the opposite position. Make all the slurs based on dialect that you wish, but you can't abrogate the words of the candidates.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:00 PM
 
Location: Florida
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And what if Romney wins and repeats what he did in MA and installs gun bans, only this time for the whole country? What if? I think Romney is more likely to do it than Obama.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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Actually not. You may have missed it but Obama created a stir just a couple weeks ago when he re-affirmed that he favors reimposition of the so-called "assault weapons" ban.
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban - ABC News

And Romney has taken the opposite position. Make all the slurs based on dialect that you wish, but you can't abrogate the words of the candidates.
Huh? That's a bogus opinion piece, but read your own link. Obama stated "My belief is that, we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got"
This is the same response he gave when he was pressed by anti-gun rights groups when he shut them down during his presidency.

Obama is against weapons that are already illegal like fully automatic assault rifles, not others that are currently legal.

It's downright laughable that one of the most anti-gun governors in recent history that did permanently "took away yurrrr gunnzzzz!" is the guy to support, when Obama, the one that has done nothing to go after freedom is the one that is going to take guns away?

Anyone that has that kind of logic must be mentally ill.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:02 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Actually not. You may have missed it but Obama created a stir just a couple weeks ago when he re-affirmed that he favors reimposition of the so-called "assault weapons" ban.
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban - ABC News

And Romney has taken the opposite position. Make all the slurs based on dialect that you wish, but you can't abrogate the words of the candidates.
No, Romney's "assult weapon" ban is still in effect in MA. In his opinion such guns are designed for killing people.

Make no mistake about it, Romney is fiercely anti-gun and his past proves it.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:04 PM
 
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I think we can all agree, there needs to be a DC massacre! For crimes against the Constitution and the freedom of the people.
I agree, most all of the teabaggers and GOP need to be thrown in jail and forced to learn the constitution
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:06 PM
 
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There is only 1 Presidential candidate who has actually signed a gun ban... and it's not Pres. Obama.
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:16 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Huh? That's a bogus opinion piece, but read your own link. Obama stated "My belief is that, we have to enforce the laws we’ve already got"
This is the same response he gave when he was pressed by anti-gun rights groups when he shut them down during his presidency.

Obama is against weapons that are already illegal like fully automatic assault rifles, not others that are currently legal.

It's downright laughable that one of the most anti-gun governors in recent history that did permanently "took away yurrrr gunnzzzz!" is the guy to support, when Obama, the one that has done nothing to go after freedom is the one that is going to take guns away?

Anyone that has that kind of logic must be mentally ill.
Take a moment away from making fun of folks based on dialect and read the link that you urged me to read. Yeah it's ABC news, and arguably bogus, but again you can't abrogate a direct quote from the POTUS.
Obama Calls for Renewal of Assault Weapons Ban - ABC News
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Originally Posted by Pres Barack Obama
. Part of it is seeing if we can get an assault weapons ban reintroduced. But
You're going to lose this argument.
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