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Old 10-31-2012, 07:13 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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Good riddance to wind farms - one of the most dangerous delusions of our age | Mail Online

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The significance of yesterday’s shock announcement by our Energy Minister John Hayes that the Government plans to put a firm limit on the building of any more onshore windfarms is hard to exaggerate. On the face of it, this promises to be the beginning of an end to one of the greatest and most dangerous political delusions of our time.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:17 PM
 
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For those that are confused.

OP thinks that limits on wind farms means that they are getting rid of wind farms.

Carry on.
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Old 10-31-2012, 07:47 PM
 
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Here's the problem with single sourcing your threads, you wind up with mud your face, a big disgrace, kickin your can all over the place (sorry couldn't control myself).


Anyway...

Coalition energy policy row as Ed Davey slaps down new Tory minister
Liberal Democrat energy boss condemns John Hayes's claims to newspapers that no more windfarms are needed

A blistering row has broken out inside the Department of Energy and Climate Change (Decc) after the Liberal Democrat energy secretary, Ed Davey, slapped down his new Conservative minister of state for claiming that no more onshore windfarms need be built in Britain.

In newspaper interviews, John Hayes said the country was "peppered" with onshore windfarms and that "enough is enough". He was quoted as saying the number of wind turbines in the UK "seems extraordinary", and "we can no longer have wind turbines imposed on communities".

A source said the minister had planned to make the remarks in a speech on Tuesday night but was instructed to remove them by Davey if he wanted to deliver a speech.

The source said: "What he planned to say was not government policy; will not be government policy. It might be what the Tory party would like to be energy policy, but it is not. He is not in charge of renewable policies on his own: he has to follow the coalition agreement, which is in favour of renewable energy and meeting our legal EU targets for 2020.
Coalition energy policy row as Ed Davey slaps down new Tory minister | Environment | guardian.co.uk
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Old 11-01-2012, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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In newspaper interviews, John Hayes said the country was "peppered" with onshore windfarms and that "enough is enough". He was quoted as saying the number of wind turbines in the UK "seems extraordinary", and "we can no longer have wind turbines imposed on communities".


That's a brilliant man right there.

You people think, um, "wind turbines" are something new?

Who on this forum would like to know why wind turbines were replaced in the early 1900s by electrical pumps?

Wind turbines only provide power about 27% of the time -- during which they hack up birds and bats. The remaining 73% of the time they just look ugly and take up space.

Instead of fantasizing about wind turbines, why don't you calculate the number of wind turbines you'd need to power the US right now, and then look at the space requirements -- as in the amount of land you'll need to put all of those turbines on.

I'll help you out....generally it's 1.2 watts per square meter.

Calculating...

Mircea
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Old 11-01-2012, 10:58 AM
 
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Who on this forum would like to know why...
I don't.

This "we people" just like for threads to be based upon truthful information and credible sources.
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Old 11-01-2012, 11:59 AM
 
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I don't.

This "we people" just like for threads to be based upon truthful information and credible sources.

truthful information: Defined as information that supports the position you espouse.

credible sources: Defined as sources that hold the position you espouse.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:32 PM
 
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Dems are not too bright. The bulldoze farms and forrests to be green. HUH? They then build these stupid wind farms with turbines made in China to create jobs. HUH?
Dems? This is/was a story about Great Britain which has been shown to be false.
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Old 11-01-2012, 01:52 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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And I suppose the lesson here is "wind turbines bad, nuclear powerplants good". Well alright, go for it, just learn a thing or too from the Japanese and don't leave radioactive waste lying about by the gigaton. Criminy... we haven't even dealt with spent nuclear material from WWII. Coal... oil... the U.S. and Britain both are in the crosshairs of the rest of the world. If we don't get a clue soon and start acting like evolved civilized human beings we will be taken out for the good of the planet.

H
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:03 PM
 
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And I suppose the lesson here is "wind turbines bad, nuclear powerplants good".
Actually the thread doesn't present any lessons other than government officials might think about checking with their bosses before engaging their mouths.
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Old 11-01-2012, 02:34 PM
 
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And I suppose the lesson here is "wind turbines bad, nuclear powerplants good". Well alright, go for it, just learn a thing or too from the Japanese and don't leave radioactive waste lying about by the gigaton. Criminy... we haven't even dealt with spent nuclear material from WWII. Coal... oil... the U.S. and Britain both are in the crosshairs of the rest of the world. If we don't get a clue soon and start acting like evolved civilized human beings we will be taken out for the good of the planet.

H

I look at it as more of "what is practical, what is not". The rest is political grandstanding motivated by idealistic morons who think reality operates on "hope and good intentions".
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