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View Poll Results: Which political group (NOT party) is screwing up the USA the most these days?
Neo Cons. 25 36.76%
MoveOn.org / Media Matters / George Soros lackeys (SPs). 4 5.88%
Big businesses (Walamrt, oil companies, tech companies, etc). 8 11.76%
Liberals and/or left-wing extremists. 16 23.53%
SPs (Secular-Progressives). 0 0%
Christian Conservatives. 7 10.29%
Fiscal Conservatives. 1 1.47%
Moderates. 1 1.47%
FemiNazis. 0 0%
Gays and SPs. 2 2.94%
Foreign governments (Chinese lobby w/ Clintons, etc). 2 2.94%
I don't know. 2 2.94%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-11-2007, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Small patch of terra firma
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Originally Posted by madicarus2000 View Post
It's not a particular party but the blind followers to a party that is ruining the country. Blind unquestionable faith in their political leadership is at fault. The politicans are just opportunistic people floating by on the gullability of their followers.
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It is NOT about political parties, but about the crazies within parties.

This poll is designed to highlight the crazies within political parties, NOT the political parties themselves.
So you responded to my statement by basically mirroring my statement? Did you actually read the response before you responded to it?

Who is ruining this country, my vote, since you have it as an option, is Christian conservatives who don’t take the time to understand the real issues and try to push outdated puritan issues on the masses as they don’t have time to actually live by those same virtues and values. Hypocrisy is ruining this country and those blind followers are helping it go down the drain.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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I answered "I don't know" for several reasons:

1) ALL of the listed groups have, in some way, had a hand in causing trouble and mayhem in America

2) Trying to distinguish who's done more damage is like trying to taste out the ingredients to Pepsi's "secret" recipe.

3) I don't like any extremists groups.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:17 AM
 
Location: Near Manito
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I vote for left-wing extremists as those most responsible for screwing up the country, if only because their excesses provoked the overreaction from right-wing extremists. A fundamental law of physics states that to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. Take out the "equal" part, and you've got today's poisoned politics.

The rest of the country -- the mainstream, if you will -- has been whipsawed between these two opposing forces for a long time. This phenomenon, combined with the money to be made by the media by keeping the two extremes at each other's throats, has created the level of disgust and cynicism so evident in contemporary society.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Northeast TN
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I vote for left-wing extremists as those most responsible for screwing up the country, if only because their excesses provoked the overreaction from right-wing extremists.
And how are you certain you do not have it backwards?
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Land of Thought and Flow
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And how are you certain you do not have it backwards?
That's like asking which came first: The chicken or the egg

All extremists have done is create a segregated nation of misconceptions, deceipt, and lies. ALL extremist groups (including Big Business) have had their hand in the cookie jar.. or Pandora's Box, persay
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:41 AM
 
Location: Northeast TN
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That's like asking which came first: The chicken or the egg

All extremists have done is create a segregated nation of misconceptions, deceipt, and lies. ALL extremist groups (including Big Business) have had their hand in the cookie jar.. or Pandora's Box, persay
I agree with you. I simply thought the perspective interesting.
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Old 10-11-2007, 10:45 AM
 
Location: Holly Springs, NC USA
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You might want to look in a mirror every once in a while. Do you ever read any liberal opinion columns or AP-style news, or is it all FOX and AM Radio? Just wondering, honest question.
Actually I don't watch Fox News (I watch local) and I read EVERYTHING. My AM radio consists of Mike & Mike in the morning too.
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Old 10-11-2007, 03:37 PM
 
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I wouldn't be surprised if anyone who votes "Gays and SPs" gets banned from the forum. That's something you're not even allowed to think!

Nonetheless, I went with perhaps the broadest category: MoveOn.org / Media Matters / George Soros lackeys (SPs). Anyone who seriously thinks these people have America's best interests at heart must be smoking some wild weed!

The Lefty-fringe bloggers are venomous, hateful and full of rage. I've never seen such a constant stream of obscene, foaming-at-the-mouth vitriol injected into the political debate as happens daily on sites like DemocraticUnderground (the DUmmies), DailyKhaos, MoRon.org or the HuffandPuff Post. Makes me want to go take a shower anytime I read their filth.

Media Matters is little more than a front for the Clinton political machine, complete and primed for slime and character-assassination. And they wonder why we're such a "less civil" society?

George Soros is just plain evil. There's something I've always suspected about that guy...

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Old 10-11-2007, 03:40 PM
 
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All of them except for moderates and fiscal conservatives. Neither one of the two exists to a great extent anymore, so that's probably why. Neo cons are messing it up the most with their obscene spending, and the constant tug of war between the far left and the neo cons sours my stomach. It's like the majority of America has been fooled into thinking the two main plutocrat parties are all we have, and the "left right" fight keeps the so called "Debate" centered around these obscene "issues" such as abortion and gay marriage, neither which actually seem as if they are being discussed in DC. It would be different if either side were actually going to take action, instead of create a propaganda tool.

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Old 10-11-2007, 04:32 PM
 
Location: South Central PA
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Neo cons. Because they are neither liberal or conservative. They are for unbalanced budget and bloated budget but not paying for services of the people. Tax cuts, but only for the rich. War against an enemy which wasnt a threat. ...etc....etc...etc...
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