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Old 11-01-2012, 03:32 PM
 
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So far just getting the typical side stepping and liberal talking points instead of answering a simple question
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Clear Lake Area
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It's a part of the female body until birth.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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Following the logic displayed in this thread:

~ Family members who assist loved ones committing suicide are murderers

~ Members of the military who kill someone are murderers

~ Surgeons who have patients die under the knife are murderers

~ Policemen who kill someone in the line of duty are murderers

~ God is a murderer when people die in natural disasters
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:36 PM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Murder stops a beating heart...abortion does the same thing...NO ONE in their right mind can deny this.
Murder is not stopping a beating heart. If you kill someone in self-defense it is not murder, even though you have stopped a beating heart. If you kill someone as a soldier during a war, you are stopping a beating heart, yet it is not murder. Murder is only the unlawful taking of another human life. Since abortion is legal, it is not murder. Anyone who cannot grasp that very simple concept is mentally defective.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:37 PM
 
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So far just getting the typical side stepping and liberal talking points instead of answering a simple question
Three people have answered you with answers you don't like, so apparently that constitutes "side-stepping." In logic-land, it's known as moving the goal posts.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles County, CA
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Following the logic displayed in this thread:

~ Family members who assist loved ones committing suicide are murderers

~ Members of the military who kill someone are murderers

~ Surgeons who have patients die under the knife are murderers

~ Policemen who kill someone in the line of duty are murderers

~ God is a murderer when people die in natural disasters
The OP used the language "against ones will".

A person committing suicide is acting willfuly.

A person who serves in a combat zone willing puts themselves at risk for the cause/mission for which they are fighting.

Unless intentional - the surgeons action would be manslaughter.

Some people commit suicide by cop.

God by definition can't murder - he is God. Murder is committed by people.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Murder is the unlawful taking of another human life. Since abortion is legal it cannot be construed as murder.
The vilest among us are those who substitute a rule written on a piece of paper, for their own sense of what is right and wrong, in the face of convincing evidence that the rule is mistaken.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:44 PM
 
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The OP used the language "against ones will".

A person committing suicide is acting willfuly.

A person who serves in a combat zone willing puts themselves at risk for the cause/mission for which they are fighting.

Unless intentional - the surgeons action would be manslaughter.

Some people commit suicide by cop.

God by definition can't murder - he is God. Murder is committed by people.
These are all rationalizations. Taking a risk is not the same as willfully stopping your own heart.

A person in combat does not want to die. Ergo, the person shooting him, according to the logic here, is committing murder, but we don't charge them with such because they are acting in their duty.

A surgeon who has a person die under his care--which happens with frequency for medical reasons--would be guilty of murder, yet we don't charge them with such because they are acting in their duty.

Not everyone who is shot by police is "suicide by cop," but and those that aren't certainly didn't want to have their hearts stopped--no will towards it--yet we don't charge those officers with murder because they're acting in their duty.

Your God murders people all the time according to this logic here--after all, it's stopping a beating heart against someone's will. You can't special plead your case on this one.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:46 PM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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Would you say when stopping someone's heart violently and against their will is murder?




















If so then why do you agree with abortion? Its stops a beating heart.

They need a fully functioning brain and should be at least be breathing air.

Lots of brain dead folks get their heart stopped, and that isn't murder.
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Old 11-01-2012, 03:48 PM
 
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Ceased innocent life is murder unless from natural causes.
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