97% Climate-scientists for Obama, Romney waits for 100% (legal, regular, death, lobby)
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So there are no problems to burn up all coal in a short time, coal as has been stored for millions of years, then its starting to emit methane as are 25x worse than CO2?
Good thing there is 220 times less methane in the atmosphere than CO2. We should be using every bit of energy producing resource at our disposal. The more energy we are able to produce, the better our standard of living. Producing less energy lowers our standard of living. Instead of making a futile attempt to change climate, we should be focusing our efforts on adapting to the climate. More species have gone extinct as a result of dramatic climate change than as a result of meteorite impacts. If we do not wish to be among those that have gone extinct, then we had better be able to adapt to whatever changes the planet throws our way.
The fact is if we set standards that run business off to China and India we will suffer economically and have a negative effect on the environment. We may just have to build dikes or move inland. Turn up the a/c a notch.
97% Climate-scientists, Obama and most politicians agree we have a severe climate-oproblem.
(If there is not a problem is not any subject in this thread! There are another one for that dispute.)
Romney agreed before but pretend he changed to win now, he is waiting for 100% experts to agree in this matter.
By that time it is all to late.
Since when does 100% scientists agree in anything?
yes there is climate change...a natural occurance
but the fascist liberals want to blame man...and their solution....a tax....go figure
97% Climate-scientists, ......agree we have a severe climate-oproblem.
and yet NOT ONE scientist has proven MANMADE global warming
the globe evolves..the global enviroment changes..periodicly...there have been WARMER TIMES..there have been cooler times..there have been times when C02 was MUCH, MUCH higher
science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2
science shows that greenery (plantlife) uses co2 and expeles o2
science shows that co2 levels have been 3 times HIGHER than they are today, in the past (ie the co2 325 of today is is much lower than the 750-10000 that co2 levels were 100,000 years ago
science shows us that the earth has warmed AND cooled many times
science shows us that ANTARTICA was once a lush furtile land, not covered in ice
science shows us that greenland was once a green lush furtile land, not covered with ice
science shows us that GLACIERS created many of the geographical features that we look at today (ie Long Island was made by the lower reaching of graciers, the great lakes were created by glaciers, the grand canyon was created by glacial melting)
science shows us that plants would grow much better, and use less water if the co2 was HIGHER...around 700-1500ppm compared to the current 320ppm
The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research (SCIENCE) demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.Plants under effective CO2 enrichment and management display thicker, lush green leaves, an abundance of fragrant fruit and flowers, and stronger, more vigorous roots. CO2 enriched plants grow rapidly and must also be supplied with the other five "essential elements" to ensure proper development and a plentiful harvest.
science shows As CO2 is a critical component of growth, plants in environments with inadequate CO2 levels - below 225 ppm - will cease to grow or produce.
SCIENCE shows that plants exposed to elevated CO2 concentrations are likely to lose less water via transpiration
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.............yet the global warming liberals only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
why do liberals DENY science???...because with the science they cant get their TAX..so they manipulate the science
Good thing there is 220 times less methane in the atmosphere than CO2. We should be using every bit of energy producing resource at our disposal. The more energy we are able to produce, the better our standard of living. Producing less energy lowers our standard of living. Instead of making a futile attempt to change climate, we should be focusing our efforts on adapting to the climate. More species have gone extinct as a result of dramatic climate change than as a result of meteorite impacts. If we do not wish to be among those that have gone extinct, then we had better be able to adapt to whatever changes the planet throws our way.
Methane are stored in the ground etc. and will be released by warmer weather. Yes green energy is welcome, coal was bad long before we knew any climate-problems. Adapting costs a lot and may not help to save us. Prevention costs a lot less, we have to do both.
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Originally Posted by thecoalman
Don't run away, please address my post and explain the 97% figure you cite.
I didnt look into that poll much they found out on 1322(?) scientists, since I know its the same here and elsewhere. Here we have 100% as far as I know, then some not climate experts who like to make their saying but work in other fields.
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Originally Posted by whogo
The fact is if we set standards that run business off to China and India we will suffer economically and have a negative effect on the environment. We may just have to build dikes or move inland. Turn up the a/c a notch.
Thats why Al Gore and others suggest a trade ban on them until they take their share.
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Originally Posted by thecoalman
Teach us, explain where the 97% figure comes from.
You can't because you have no clue do you? Perhaps you should take your own advice to read and learn.
I didnt look into that poll much they found out on 1322(?) scientists, since I know its the same here and elsewhere. Here we have 100% as far as I know, then some not climate experts who like to make their saying but work in other fields.
I knew most of them here by name and had contacted some of them who opposes facts, then they admit there are problems with CO2 and we better change energy-systems as we have to do anyway, so why take any chances?
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Originally Posted by workingclasshero
yes there is climate change...a natural occurance
but the fascist liberals want to blame man...and their solution....a tax....go figure
Once again, it is not natural to burn up oil coal and gas in a short time, as has been stored millions of years, that never happened before. We get to much CO2 as warms up our globe, then comes stored Methane 25 times more harmful than CO2. Less taxes on green energy and higher on harmful evens out. Your wars cost a lot of taxes, good or bad.
and yet NOT ONE scientist has proven MANMADE global warming
the globe evolves..the global enviroment changes..periodicly...there have been WARMER TIMES..there have been cooler times..there have been times when C02 was MUCH, MUCH higher
science shows that humans use oxygen and expele (exhale) co2
science shows that greenery (plantlife) uses co2 and expeles o2
science shows that co2 levels have been 3 times HIGHER than they are today, in the past (ie the co2 325 of today is is much lower than the 750-10000 that co2 levels were 100,000 years ago
science shows us that the earth has warmed AND cooled many times
science shows us that ANTARTICA was once a lush furtile land, not covered in ice
science shows us that greenland was once a green lush furtile land, not covered with ice
science shows us that GLACIERS created many of the geographical features that we look at today (ie Long Island was made by the lower reaching of graciers, the great lakes were created by glaciers, the grand canyon was created by glacial melting)
science shows us that plants would grow much better, and use less water if the co2 was HIGHER...around 700-1500ppm compared to the current 320ppm
The typical outdoor air we breathe contains 0.03 - 0.045% (300 - 450 ppm) CO2. Research (SCIENCE) demonstrates that optimum growth and production for most plants occur between 1200 - 1500 ppm CO2. These optimum CO2 levels can boost plant metabolism, growth and yield by 25 - 60%.Plants under effective CO2 enrichment and management display thicker, lush green leaves, an abundance of fragrant fruit and flowers, and stronger, more vigorous roots. CO2 enriched plants grow rapidly and must also be supplied with the other five "essential elements" to ensure proper development and a plentiful harvest.
science shows As CO2 is a critical component of growth, plants in environments with inadequate CO2 levels - below 225 ppm - will cease to grow or produce.
SCIENCE shows that plants exposed to elevated CO2 concentrations are likely to lose less water via transpiration
common sense states that as the earths polulation expands, so does the need for more plantlife...to keep our oxygen levels up.............yet the global warming liberals only want to talk about car/industry exaust; man created co2,.... and how to tax it
why do liberals DENY science???...because with the science they cant get their TAX..so they manipulate the science
Read also links from NASA and my links, hundreds of million dollars are out on desinformation and you seem to be one of them who get paid to kill us, or are just desinformed.
Please support as with any link from a well known climate-expert, not science fiction.
Last edited by Najt; 11-04-2012 at 07:32 PM..
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