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It's not as chaotic here as people think. I don't know if it's the news in other areas exaggerating, or the mentality others think NY/NJ area people have (we're more aggressive, less reliant on natural resources and more on material things, if you will - both of which I have heard about us) but things have been great here considering the circumstances. The government (state and local) have been responding calmly and well. First responders were out there during the storm and cleanup crews in some areas the day after. People all in the region have been working nonstop to collect food/drinks/medicine/clothes/etc for the needy through social networking sites and the news. People in affected areas have been donating to those even more affected. We have really been working together. Trucks have left my town which is 10 miles from Staten Island at least three times already delivering things to Staten Island that those poor people need. We are helping each other out and trying to remain as positive as possible.
Now, there are some stories of minor riots or fights in gas lines and these are true, but the amount of fights compared to the number of gas stations in the region is minuscule. And yes, the state and local police have been called in to gas stations to keep watch and in some areas, so has the National Guard. But most people are patiently waiting to fill their cars or gas cans while nice volunteers bring them hot coffee and food while they wait on line. Seriously, it has been going very well in most places.
Gas rationing has been put in effect in NJ and it has been going just fine. In NY, a 10 gallon limit I believe at least in some areas has been enacted and the National Guard and armed forces are distributing free gas in other areas. Seriously, it's not as if the world as we know it here is ending. Yes, things are weird, we're out of our usual funk, but we're doing fine so far. We already have that Jersey Strong, we'll rebuild the shore mentality in Jersey so I think that pretty much says it all.
It's not as chaotic here as people think. I don't know if it's the news in other areas exaggerating, or the mentality others think NY/NJ area people have (we're more aggressive, less reliant on natural resources and more on material things, if you will - both of which I have heard about us) but things have been great here considering the circumstances. The government (state and local) have been responding calmly and well. First responders were out there during the storm and cleanup crews in some areas the day after. People all in the region have been working nonstop to collect food/drinks/medicine/clothes/etc for the needy through social networking sites and the news. People in affected areas have been donating to those even more affected. We have really been working together. Trucks have left my town which is 10 miles from Staten Island at least three times already delivering things to Staten Island that those poor people need. We are helping each other out and trying to remain as positive as possible.
Now, there are some stories of minor riots or fights in gas lines and these are true, but the amount of fights compared to the number of gas stations in the region is minuscule. And yes, the state and local police have been called in to gas stations to keep watch and in some areas, so has the National Guard. But most people are patiently waiting to fill their cars or gas cans while nice volunteers bring them hot coffee and food while they wait on line. Seriously, it has been going very well in most places.
Gas rationing has been put in effect in NJ and it has been going just fine. In NY, a 10 gallon limit I believe at least in some areas has been enacted and the National Guard and armed forces are distributing free gas in other areas. Seriously, it's not as if the world as we know it here is ending. Yes, things are weird, we're out of our usual funk, but we're doing fine so far. We already have that Jersey Strong, we'll rebuild the shore mentality in Jersey so I think that pretty much says it all.
Glad to hear things are going well for the most part
I know Americans have dedicated themselves to the socialist ideal of self-UNreliance and happy dependency on government bureaucrats but I don't understand why these same "progressives" continue to cling onto the government that abandons them after a disaster.
Society has collapsed very quickly after natural disasters in places that liberals tend to congregate (Louisiana, New York City, New Jersey).
If you live in a highly liberal area (e.g. California) that is prone to massive natural disasters (e.g. California) you MUST learn how to depend on yourself and not mommy government.
That means you MUST have:
Water- 1 Gallon per person in your group per day
Food
Bleach- 1 Drop in a gallon of drinking water will purify it and this can be done before or after you boil it.
Ham Radio- if the power goes or communication is lost, this radio will allow you to stay in contact with other survivors.
Precious Metals- it is important to have a duffel bag filled with gold and silver for trade in case ATMs are down for several weeks.
Knife- A good hunting knife that has a saw on one side
Backpack- A good solid one that will distribute the weight evenly in case you need to leave your residence or hunt for food.
Maps of your neighborhood marking all the key locations and exits and points that could be safe.
Flashlights and batteries
Guns and Ammo- I suggest a Glock 17-VBR 7.92 and a Smith & Wesson Model 908
You got me looking up guns for women. This is a good video that covers the basics. I wish I had watched this before I bought mine. My grip is a little too big, and the gun is a little heavy for me. Ladies, know what to look for before you buy.
Many of these people have no cars and/or do not drive. They do not do "big" shopping. Many have no supermarkets in their area that provide access to bulk items. Often "real" shopping involves taking a bus, or two or three and then carting stuff up many flights of stairs.
It's easy to condemn them from the comfort of those areas rife with Walmarts and Target Supercenters where everyone has a car and a driveway, if not a garage to park in.
This a a whole different reality.
Anyone who doesn't have room for a few dozen cans of tuna, chicken, whatever, needs to clean house and start throwing crap away to make room. You can eat it right out of the can. You don't even need bread.
Good grief! How freakin' hard is that?
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Originally Posted by claudhopper
You got me looking up guns for women. This is a good video that covers the basics. I wish I had watched this before I bought mine. My grip is a little too big, and the gun is a little heavy for me. Ladies, know what to look for before you buy.
I spent 14 hours yesterday volunteering, collecting and driving needed supplies to people in far rockaway and coney island who lost their homes. Much of the city is relatively unaffected, and getting back to business, but it is really bad out there. I was just one of thousands upon thousands of New Yorkers who have been taking it upon themselves to help out people who were less fortunate this week. Yes, FEMA is there, doing things like demolition of dangerous structures, and clearance with huge machines, and figuring out what to do with the small mountains of beach sand that have been deposited in the middle of neighborhoods. But so many regular people are helping out where they can, helping to get people what they need.
I don't see how this is "American society breaking down". This is society coming together and doing what it's supposed to do.
Precious metals? What makes them valuable? Food, water, shelter, clothing and then little luxuries like medicine, booze, soap....there is an order things go in in. And all of your prep is pointless when you have an immediate evac or have to be lifed out of someplace and you have to leave it all behind or it's under water or rubble. Metals are too heavy to carry.
There is only so much you can do since the DISASTER isn't going to follow the rules, but it's funny people seem to think if they hoard enough they will be fine.
Turned on the video...there was no sound...I was about to get the audio going till I saw the whole in the knee of her jeans...I really can't take some one seriously who wants to put a hole in someone but does not have the sense to sew up a hole in her pants.
Anyway- society did NOT collapse..there was a bit of panic ...it is just a slight injury to the nation..it will be sewn up and healed in no time -unlike the hole in the knee of the jeans.
Precious metals? What makes them valuable? Food, water, shelter, clothing and then little luxuries like medicine, booze, soap....there is an order things go in in. And all of your prep is pointless when you have an immediate evac or have to be lifed out of someplace and you have to leave it all behind or it's under water or rubble. Metals are too heavy to carry.
There is only so much you can do since the DISASTER isn't going to follow the rules, but it's funny people seem to think if they hoard enough they will be fine.
I have a problem with the list. I think you put Booze way too far down on the list and it's certainly NOT a luxury for many! Works great as a disinfectant, can help start warming fires,can be traded for other things or get you drunk enough you just plain don't care that you're up to your eyeballs in sand,water or whatever.
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I think you put Booze way too far down on the list and it's certainly NOT a luxury for many! Works great as a disinfectant, can help start warming fires,can be traded for other things or get you drunk enough you just plain don't care that you're up to your eyeballs in sand,water or whatever.
