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Take off those blinders. The dems are the war machine right now. The Dems and Repubs both want us in the Middle East in never ending wars but right now the Middle East is Obamas war. Our Military is in more places than ever, that's completely on Obama. Obama controls troop movements so if he wants to bring the troops home he has that power. But admitting the truth isn't a strong point for the followers of that failure Obama. His horrible policies have kept the economy stagnant and he murders children while they attend school in the Middle East. But those people aren't human right? Their lives don't matter right?
"TBIJ reports that from June 2004 through mid-September 2012, available data indicate that drone strikes killed 2,562 - 3,325 people in Pakistan, of whom 474 - 881 were civilians, including 176 children. TBIJ reports that these strikes also injured an additional 1,228 - 1,362 individuals," according to the Stanford/NYU study. Based on interviews with witnesses, victims and experts, the report accuses the CIA of "double-striking" a target, moments after the initial hit, thereby killing first responders."
In the US, mass child killings are tragedies. In Pakistan, mere bug splats
Barack Obama's tears for the children of Newtown are in stark contrast to his silence over the children murdered by his drones
"[It is] alleged that since President Obama took office at least 50 civilians were killed in follow-up strikes when they had gone to help victims and more than 20 civilians have also been attacked in deliberate strikes on funerals and mourners. Christof Heyns … has described such attacks, if they prove to have happened, as war crimes. I would endorse that view."
Emmerson singled out both President Obama and the Republican challenger Mitt Romney for criticism. "It is perhaps surprising that the position of the two candidates on this issue has not even featured during their presidential elections campaigns, and got no mention at all in Monday night's foreign policy debate.
Okay for the dems to kill innocent people around the world, bad when Repubs do.
Sen Obama - The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation. As Commander-in-Chief, the President does have a duty to protect and defend the United States. In instances of self-defense, the President would be within his constitutional authority to act before advising Congress or seeking its consent. History has shown us time and again, however, that military action is most successful when it is authorized and supported by the Legislative branch. It is always preferable to have the informed consent of Congress prior to any military action.
Like I said, okay when we do it, bad when they do it.
But hey it's Christmas maybe more children will be killed in order to satisfy blood thirsty democrats. Plenty of republicans will be happy too no doubt. Lets not ever forget that the big government republican party is every bit as evil as the big government democrats.
Bring the troops home and used that money to take care of entitlements but realize those entitlements have to change or there will be nothing left for future generations. That's from the godfather of the Tea Party, Ron Paul. THAT is a conservative.
Everyone knows who loves private contract middlemen fleecing the tax payer and it ain't the Democrats.
It seems like everyone forgets the Iraq debacle was in the process of winding down when Obama took over. He really didn't do much period, but he was in office when the soldiers came home so we have to give him his due credit, just don't give him credit for the entire withdrawl...
That's an arguable position that I appreciate. The other side of it is whether the Bush team would have moved as fast.
Understood, but that is your fault for wearing blinders.
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Bush and the neocons started the Afghanistan and Iraq Wars, the latter under false pretenses,
Agreed, lets see if you can take those blinders off and call for withdrawal of our troops
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yet you say "now the Middle East is Obamas war." This is an astounding response considering that we just left a presidential campaign where the GOP candidate advocated attacking Iran.
yet Obama wants to continue sanctions and make us less safe by occupying countries with a military that kills innocent people. I believe we will get attacked once more as a response for our aggression. Google blowback.
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In the meantime, Obama has wound-down the Iraq debacle and is trying to extricate us from Afghanistan.
He is using the previous war mongers timetable. That's something else you don't know.
"I will get our troops home, we will end this war, you can take that too the bank." Obama flip flopped right away, then 16 months, then 19 months, then 30 then who knows
The only thing he took to the bank was the peoples money to bail out his buddies.
1. The President controls troop movements. He can bring the troops home anytime but doesn't
2. Our military is in more places than ever before and is now preparing to send more troops to Africa
An Army brigade from Fort Riley, Kan., some 4,000, soldiers, will begin helping to train African militaries. The idea is to help African troops beat back a growing terrorist threat posed by al-Qaida. The American troops will head over in small teams over the course of the next year. The Dagger Brigade returned to Kansas last year from a deployment to Iraq, where it trained and advised that country's security forces. U.S. Military Builds Up Its Presence In Africa : NPR
The United States Army will be deploying troops to nearly three-dozen African nations in the coming year. Soldiers based out of Fort Riley, Kansas’ 2nd Brigade, 1st Infantry Division will begin training in March 2013 in order to prepare for a project that will send troops to as many as 35 African nations, the Associated Press reports. Citing a growing threat from extremist groups, including those with ties to al-Qaeda, the Department of Defense is hoping to install American soldiers overseas in order to prepare local troops there for any future crises as tensions escalate.
Everyone knows who loves private contract middlemen fleecing the tax payer and it ain't the Democrats.
That has some truth too it. Haliburton has usually been associated with the repubs. Now that the dems are in control, is the fleecing still going on?
Doesn't matter which war monger in chief is in office, everyone who was against this before Obama was in office should still be just as vocal.
That has some truth too it. Haliburton has usually been associated with the repubs. Now that the dems are in control, is the fleecing still going on?
Doesn't matter which war monger in chief is in office, everyone who was against this before Obama was in office should still be just as vocal.
That is why we should allow sequestration to occur. It would reduce the size of the military-industrial complex Ike warned all about, and his warning was correct, but fell on deaf ears.
Only in liberals dreams. We are still a 50/50 country basically despite protestations to the contrary.
GOP 24 year average 203 electoral votes, with its high of 286 lower by 46 of the lowest of either elections of Clinton or Obama.
Democrats 55 Senate seats, +2 this year, when one year ago, they were fending off 21 unsafe seats, GOP fending off 6. By 2016, Dems have a supermajority.
And House will be Democratic by 2016.
When America's POTUS electorate was 88% white as in 1984, things were far different. In 2012, that % was 72, in 2016, under 70, by 2020, under 65%.
As one who favors Establishment GOP types, this is not a post I enjoy writing. But the truth must be faced. Or else, 2012 will be the GOP high water mark vs 2016, 2020, 2024, ...
to opening poster yep tea party neo cons have destroyed the republican party
that is correct tea parties are neo cons in disguised destroyed them.
but we should say republicans were destroying themselves since neo-cons joined. gg.
too bad no real republicans exist anymore with any power in the party. all of them are now retiring and giving up on usa as it is a lost cause until the eminent crash happens and people wake up to what is really going on.
to opening poster yep tea party neo cons have destroyed the republican party
that is correct tea parties are neo cons in disguised destroyed them.
but we should say republicans were destroying themselves since neo-cons joined. gg.
too bad no real republicans exist anymore with any power in the party. all of them are now retiring and giving up on usa as it is a lost cause until the eminent crash happens and people wake up to what is really going on.
The TPutzes are exiting quickly ... We will see how much in 2014 and 2016.
They'll continue to be a big factor in state and local politics in many parts of the country. But their influence in national politics will lay dormant until the Dems foul something up, and that's just a matter of time.
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Has the Tea Party destroyed the Republican Party?
