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Old 11-08-2012, 06:35 AM
 
Location: DFW
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They didn't change laws to expand the programs but they did advertise heavily to expand the numbers that use the programs.
First you catch the fish, then you fillet it.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:36 AM
 
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So what?
Why do you get benefits others don't get?
What makes you special?
You don't think that hets don't scam the system?

So the entire basis of your thought process is greed.
How about we just get rid of survivor or spousal benefits.
Agreed. Survivor and spousal benefits should be eliminated. This was implemented when most families had one wage earner and is no longer needed in two income "partnerships". Each person should be entitled to their SS benefits based on their individual work history; not on their partners. Gay, straight, married or not...SS should be an individual benefit.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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The USG has done some pretty heavy advertising for existing programs.
Food Stamp usage hits a new high each month and the lifeline program grew 476% in 3 years.

They didn't change laws to expand the programs but they did advertise heavily to expand the numbers that use the programs.
I guess the program is OK as long as people that need it, don't know about it?
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:43 AM
 
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Obamacare doesn't count. LOL
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:45 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I guess the program is OK as long as people that need it, don't know about it?
Hey..I'm ok with people getting ONE lifeline phone/plan but five phones and plans ?
The USG "forgot" to implement a central database to track users and their plans and with several different cell phone companies doing lifeline program these people figured out pretty quick they could get multiple phones/plans FOR FREE.

Come on fb..if the government is going to implement something, at least do it in a professional manner.

Now they can't track down who has what.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:46 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Obama extends entitlements by advertizing to get food stamps. Hey, come on folks, apply! And of course the users will be applying and lying.

Also the magnets of illegals having anchor babies to get free entitlements. Hey all you illegals.. come for free food stamps, free housing, free health care free education and we will supply you will teachers for spanish speaking illegals here.

Illegals can buy homes here and get a mortgage and not pay the mortgage.

Free birth control is Obama's message of entitlements. Putting through legislation for more free bees.

Welfare raises for people who didn't earn their welfare benefits, yet no raise for two years for the seniors who worked for their benefits. The raise for next year will be the lowest of any prior year not counting the years the seniors got NOTHING AND THAT WAS A FIRST TOO all under Obama.

Giving health care to everyone yet cutting Medicare to the seniors. Many doctors including my own doctor may decide to leave his profession.

Doctors are scarce today. I wanted to go to a specialist and was offered to see a nurse. Sorry, I pay for my health care and want to see a doctor. It will become impossible to see a doctor with millions more getting free or low coverage under Obamacare. Good luck if it is an emergency!

Obama is a man who did NOTHING for NJ as my town hit by Sandy only has 15% power 11 days after the storm. After the unions send back many pole workers without a union card many people are freezing here with a foot of snow on the ground , and NO HEAT FOR 11 DAYS!! Thanks to the dumb people who really believes Obama did something for us in NJ and NY.. He didn't do anything!! Obama is a loser and always will be and the people who voted for him are STUPID!
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:47 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Obamacare doesn't count. LOL
That's correct since it was a 100% Bi-Partisan effort put together by both parties. And we know it's not a Tax but will save us Trillions of $$

All this warm fuzzy talk from Obama the last 2 days about "Working Together". Where was that the last 4 years ?
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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That's correct since it was a 100% Bi-Partisan effort put together by both parties. And we know it's not a Tax but will save us Trillions of $$

All this warm fuzzy talk from Obama the last 2 days about "Working Together". Where was that the last 4 years ?
BS and we all know that..Obamacare was 100% Dems..Reid, Pelosi, Obama and no one else was invited.
No Repubs voted for it either.

And I will post this every chance I get...Obamacare is a 100% Democrat bill.
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Old 11-08-2012, 06:58 AM
 
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So the entire basis of your thought process is greed.
How about we just get rid of survivor or spousal benefits.
That's exactly what will happen.

Believe it or not, there are still stay at home mothers that need support when their working spouse dies. That was the purpose of survivor benefits from the start. Not everyone is going to retire to Chang Mai.

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Old 11-08-2012, 07:01 AM
 
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Obama extends entitlements by advertizing to get food stamps. Hey, come on folks, apply! And of course the users will be applying and lying.

Also the magnets of illegals having anchor babies to get free entitlements. Hey all you illegals.. come for free food stamps, free housing, free health care free education and we will supply you will teachers for spanish speaking illegals here.

Illegals can buy homes here and get a mortgage and not pay the mortgage.

Free birth control is Obama's message of entitlements. Putting through legislation for more free bees.

Welfare raises for people who didn't earn their welfare benefits, yet no raise for two years for the seniors who worked for their benefits. The raise for next year will be the lowest of any prior year not counting the years the seniors got NOTHING AND THAT WAS A FIRST TOO all under Obama.

There's nothing wrong with letting people know about the programs designed to help ensure KIDS and FAMILIES have enough to eat. What kind of evil are you, anyway? Guess people should get inadequate nutrition because of your sick ideology!


Further, illegals are a problem of conservative businessmen, who love illegals and cheap labor for PROFITS PROFITS PROFITS.

Obama removed 1.4 MILLION people the first 42 months of his administration. Which is more than your demigod Bush.


Facts: Kryptonite to unhinged right wingers.



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Giving health care to everyone yet cutting Medicare to the seniors. Many doctors including my own doctor may decide to leave his profession.

Please, show us instances where seniors are having their Medicare cut, are being faced with higher bills and less benefits.

REAL examples. Not some chop shop job at your favorite RWNJ blog that has been wrong about EVERYTHING this election!


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Doctors are scarce today. I wanted to go to a specialist and was offered to see a nurse. Sorry, I pay for my health care and want to see a doctor. It will become impossible to see a doctor with millions more getting free or low coverage under Obamacare. Good luck if it is an emergency!
Your doctor wants an excuse to retire. What's he going to do for a living now? Go work at Wal-Mart?

And FWIW, the fact that you think there's nothing wrong with the fact that millions have to be uninsured so you don't have to wait a bit longer to see a doctor is ANOTHER disgusting attitude unbecoming of someone who pretends to be a good little Xtian solider.


(And btw, maybe your doctor is looking for an excuse to move out of NJ. I also have been to at least two specialists recently.... virtually no wait time. In and out of the dermatologist in half an hour.)


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Obama is a man who did NOTHING for NJ as my town hit by Sandy only has 15% power 11 days after the storm. After the unions send back many pole workers without a union card many people are freezing here with a foot of snow on the ground , and NO HEAT FOR 11 DAYS!! Thanks to the dumb people who really believes Obama did something for us in NJ and NY.. He didn't do anything!! Obama is a loser and always will be and the people who voted for him are STUPID!



But really, since you dislike the government anyway, why don't you and your neighbors and whatever church you belong to get your @sses out into the snow, and start doing something to help the community, instead of posting on City-Data?



And by the way, though not surprising, you are WRONG about non-union workers being turned away!:

Union officials deny non-union utility workers were turned away from N.J. hurricane outage site | NJ.com

Union crews are otherwise working with non-affiliated personnel in several jurisdictions, Siegel and a representative with the union’s Washington, D.C., national office said.

"It is the policy of this union and the companies we represent to welcome assistance during major natural disasters – regardless of union status,” Jim Spellane, spokesman for the national office, said in a statement. “IBEW local leaders in New Jersey have reiterated what has been the long standing record of our union – in times of crisis all help is welcome and we pull together with everyone to meet the needs of the public."


"We are headed back home," she said. "We were never turned away."

Bill Yell, communications manager for Huntsville Utilities, said he was not aware a union issue had prevented three of that company’s crews from working in New Jersey.

Huntsville originally sent two three-man bucket crews and one three-man pole-setting crew to Seaside Heights, but that all nine had since been dispatched to Long Island, Yell said.

"The reason we're not working with the New Jersey system is that they had all the crews they could handle," he said.

The fact that those crews are not unionized did not have any effect, he said.

"They didn't have any problems with us," he said.
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