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Old 11-11-2012, 08:53 AM
 
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That waiver was ONLY given to government contractors due to the fiscal cliff.
It was not given to all employers in the US because of Obamacare mandates.

I think you are confusing issues here.
I am not confusing it. You are correct, given to military "government" contractors due to sequestration (downsizing the military) spending cuts. So do you think it is ok to stop people from being told they will lose their job to save Obama's job?
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:57 AM
 
Location: the AZ desert
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I just read Macy's, Stop & Shop, IHOP and Publix have cut part-timers to under 20 hours/week. I don't have reliable links for those yet though.

I'm also reading about companies having their employees switch to independent contractor status, but have no reliable links for this yet either.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I am not confusing it. You are correct, given to military "government" contractors due to sequestration (downsizing the military) spending cuts. So do you think it is ok to stop people from being told they will lose their job to save Obama's job?
The 19% of Americans that put Obama back into office seemed to have no problem with this.
Although I suspect that very few of those 19% even know what's going on in America.
Heck..33% of Americans polled didn't know who our Vice President is and you think they might know about sequestration ?


19%..shocker eh ?

180 million voters...60 million got Obama reelected..that's 30% of registered voters.
60 million is 19% of all Americans.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:59 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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This last recession began in December, 2007. These were the largest lay-offs:


GM- 107K
Citi-73K
HP-48K
ML-41K
Verizon-39K
Pfizer-32K
Merck-24K
Lehman-24K
CAT-233K
JP Morgan-Chase- 23K
Starbucks-21K
ATT-19K
Alcoa-18K
Dow 18K
Du Pont-17K
Berkshire-17K
Ford-165K
KB Toys-15K
USPS-15K
DHL- 15K
Sprint-15K
Sun-15K
Boeing-14K
Chrysler-14K

Recessions end when things stop getting worse.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Well individual companies don't notify the government for every layoff they do.
That is a good site that follows layoff notices and posts links to the various companies and papers that posted those announcements.

What you want doesn't exist today.
What I want? I quoted directly from the freakin' law that YOU posted a link to! Now I would agree it doesn't always work that way. I could cite numerous examples from my own experience. Most of the professionals I know who've been laid off had literally no notice whatsoever. Some got severance, some did not.

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Another small business owner who reduced his part-timers' hours to fall under the new minimum and laid off his couple of full timers entirely.
He fired them for voting for Obama.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: High Cotton
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Can only hope the vast majority of people losing their jobs are the idiots that voted for clown Obozo.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What I want? I quoted directly from the freakin' law that YOU posted a link to! Now I would agree it doesn't always work that way. I could cite numerous examples from my own experience. Most of the professionals I know who've been laid off had literally no notice whatsoever. Some got severance, some did not.



He fired them for voting for Obama.
There's huge loopholes in WARN. I worked for a big multinational.
The way they got around that was to do layoffs at various sites in different states.
In each state they kept the number under the minimum. WARN is on a per state basis, not per company.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:40 AM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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Can only hope the vast majority of people losing their jobs are the idiots that voted for clown Obozo.
Thank goodness Obama will give them a phone food stamps and welfare , who needs a job?
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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There's huge loopholes in WARN. I worked for a big multinational.
The way they got around that was to do layoffs at various sites in different states.
In each state they kept the number under the minimum. WARN is on a per state basis, not per company.
I am not surprised to hear that.

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Thank goodness Obama will give them a phone food stamps and welfare , who needs a job?
It was a previous president who started the free phone program.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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What I want? I quoted directly from the freakin' law that YOU posted a link to! Now I would agree it doesn't always work that way. I could cite numerous examples from my own experience. Most of the professionals I know who've been laid off had literally no notice whatsoever. Some got severance, some did not.



He fired them for voting for Obama.
Kat, you don't have to believe that any of this is fallout from Obamacare.
You can believe that companies are laying off and cutting hours because they are not doing well financially. Or you can believe that they fired workers who voted for Obama out of spite.

You are free to believe what you want as the reason for these actions.
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