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Not really. My viewpoints are back by evidence, and I don't say other people can't possibly be right. In some parallel universe where hate is more important than love, sure they might be right. Doesn't mean they follow Jesus on planet Earth.
Well, no one has mad such claim, so I dont' even know what you are talking about.
Look, every post you make you make an attempt to judge people as un-Christian, hateful etc simply because they defend Christian values. All they are guilty of is disagreeing with your views, and when you lash out the way you do, you come across as angry. It is that very anger which reveals the weakness of the actual position you are trying to defend. Trying to raise your voice, or feiging anger to overcome a weak position is an old trick, and it's not going to work.
Over aggressive pro-gay people such as yourself are defined in Romans 1:31 “they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”
Well, no one has mad such claim, so I dont' even know what you are talking about.
Look, every post you make you make an attempt to judge people as un-Christian, hateful etc simply because they defend Christian values.
Condemning gay people is not a Christian value no matter how much you want to pretend it is. Jesus called religious conservatives who cling to legalism, and ignore compassion and love vipers and hypocrites.
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Over aggressive pro-gay people such as yourself are defined in Romans 1:31 “they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.”
You don't know the first thing about me. I have an extremely high sense of morality and empathy. Even my family and friends think I'm too puritanical and innocent. I've been nicknamed "Angel". And as a Messianic Jew, I'm theologically more in line with the Apostles than any Christian today.
I ask, because it interests me. If it does not interest you, then just let it go.
I'd let it go, but I'm concerned you're discounting the views of those Christians whom you do not agree with (are all Christians not equal?). Its all over this thread, and frankly, if I was a Christian, I'd be insulted.
You don't know the first thing about me. I have an extremely high sense of morality and empathy. Even my family and friends think I'm too puritanical and innocent. I've been nicknamed "Angel".
Your own words here define you, and you come across as a very angry, judgmental and bitter person.
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I'm theologically more in line with the Apostles than any Christian today
I'd let it go, but I'm concerned you're discounting the views of those Christians whom you do not agree with (are all Christians not equal?). Its all over this thread, and frankly, if I was a Christian, I'd be insulted.
Most cultural Christians are not insulted by the term "cultural Christian", and some are even quick to add they are 'non-practising' Christians. They consider themselves Christians because they were born in a Christian country, they celebrate Christian holidays and appreciate Christian traditions, but if asked, they will tell you they are not 'born again' Christians. For decades I was such person myself. I had no relationship with Christ, but if someone asked me what religion I was I'd tell them I was Christian.
Most cultural Christians are not insulted by the term "cultural Christian", and some are even quick to add they are 'non-practising' Christians. They consider themselves Christians because they were born in a Christian country, they celebrate Christian holidays and appreciate Christian traditions, but if asked, they will tell you they are not 'born again' Christians. For decades I was such person myself. I had no relationship with Christ, but if someone asked me what religion I was I'd tell them I was Christian.
Actually I have no intention of quoting anything off topic. The topic is "Christians who support gay marriage", and the truth is that there is no such thing as a Christian who promotes sin.
So, since when is marriage a sin? (other than re-marriage)?
Christians are people who believe Christ was God manifest on earth. Period. Everything else is chaff, as they say. You accept that one thing, you are Christian. [by definition, though clearly not by the dogma of 100's of individual sects]Interpreting the bible in one way or another is more like club entre into a particular brand.
On top of that pile on 2000 years of interpretations of Greek and possibly Hebrew text that got accepted as New Testament. Then you have a Roman/Eastern split; a Catholic/Protestant split; a continuing Protestant/Protestant/Protestant/Protestant/etc split {all "Christians"]
The OP wants to know how someone who fits his definition of Christian can argue against his translation and interpretation of scripture. The answer is you can't because then you aren't a "Christian".
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"Christians" can and do understand that passage to refer to pagan temple practices in Rome at the time the text was written to the Romans.
"Christians" can & do believe Paul was a man of his time and take his pronouncements in that context - women talking in church, jewelry, marriage etc.
"Christians" can and do believe that their faith is a living thing where the record of what Christ alone said is the clearest basis upon which all later decisions should be made.
You should read the thread too and discover how Bible defines acceptable sex (married man-woman couple). Unfortunately gay sex falls outside of it as does hetero sex when done outside of marriage.
The Bible also says it is okay to own slaves, kill your children, AND a female if she isn't a virgin on her wedding night, but I guess it is okay for the male to not be?
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