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Old 11-11-2012, 07:52 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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No one said anything about intellectual superiority. Firstly, I'm an idiot. Secondly, just because logic is limiting it doesn't follow that people who use it are limited. Not many, if not no one, is/are strictly logical, anyway.

And thirdly, I'll just wait for the sky to start falling then.

Hopefully people never move to "legalize all drugs". Oh, wait....

Doesn't matter in the end, I guess. People make their own decisions, and I'll smack my kids if they choose to indulge as a lifestyle.

So, hopefully, society's god awful decisions won't affect me.
You were regaling us with reasons for your supposed position of intellectual and moral superiority. But let's not derail any further. Suffice it to say, I am not for hard drugs being legalized; but, marijuana is a no-brainer. You, on the other hand, are embracing a false moral equivalency of the highest order. You're really just coming off as the father-figure who says, "Because I told you so!", without any actual facts to back up your position.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:53 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Everything will be legal eventually in 30, 50 or 200 years. Most drugs are harmful including alcohol, but pot is definitely worse than alcohol.

If pot is legalized at the federal level, cocaine or ecstasy will be next.

Good! Then we can take responsibility for our own decisions.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:55 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Hopefully not.

If so, I'll leave. From experience, I don't want my kids growing up in a culture that doesn't prohibit drugs.

Hopefully, it doesn't get to that point...or I die first...so it's no longer my problem.

I'm just sad things are going the way they are.
What's sad is that Big Government is growing in size and power and telling us more and more how we must live our lives.

I don't want my kids growing up in a culture that makes decisions for them. I want my kids to choose their own life. I want my kids to choose what they will eat, drink and smoke.
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:56 PM
 
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"I've got nothing"

I was interested to see if there was any depth (philosophical, ethical, or otherwise) to what you were awkwardly driving at, but yeah, you're just grasping (or alternatively, trolling). You'd think I'd learn with this board.
Idk, I'd be interested in conversing but I've learnt not to waste my time with people who seemingly aren't interested in anything other than mocking you thus giving themselves an intellectual boost of sorts. As it stands, that's my characterization of you.

You see, I've actually learnt with these boards.

What do you want from me?

You already know my position. I have nothing else to offer, excepts maybe an explaination, though I've covered that as well.

Just putting my thoughts out there...
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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My intuition leads me to the conclusion that recreational drug use of any kind is a waste of the human effort. I'm not completely against wasting life, but I am for limiting wastage as much as possible.

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So do you also oppose other forms of recreation? Do you oppose eating ice cream since it's a recreation food and a waste of human effort? Do you only do things that are necessary for life?
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Old 11-11-2012, 07:59 PM
 
Location: Twin Cities, MN
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Idk, I'd be interested in conversing but I've learnt not to waste my time with people who seemingly aren't interested in anything other than mocking you thus giving themselves an intellectual boost of sorts. As it stands, that's my characterization of you.

You see, I've actually learnt with these boards.

What do you want from me?

You already know my position. I have nothing else to offer, excepts maybe an explaination, though I've covered that as well.

Just putting my thoughts out there...
Creating a thread is an open-ended invitation for other members here to respond. Creating a thread doesn't come with moderator powers. Relax.

If you want a venue where people cannot reply then start a blog and shut comments off.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:00 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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I am of the "put whatever you want in your own body" philosophy "as long as you do no harm to others". Prohibition was a FAIL. The "war on drugs" is a total FAIL. Eliminate the "forbidden fruit" mentality, eliminate the black market, let the oh so reliable FDA regulate heroin and cocaine so that it is not cut with dangerous substances or laced with arsenic, and as I said, make people get a prescription. For God's sake, I have to sign a book for DHS if I want to buy Sudafed! Like a middle-aged Mom with a bad cold is going to run home and crank up her meth lab.
Correct. Adults should be able to make those decisions for themselves.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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If you're not interested...simply stop reading.

I'd like to think my morality has a large degree of objectivity to it, if only in so far as the group(s) of people with whom I concern myself are concerned.

A lot of what you said wasn't my intention, though I won't elaborate since it's largely stuff you wouldn't be interested in anyway, as per your admission. So, I'll give it up.

Have a good night. Lolol
History shows that morality is purely subjective. So far you have brought no objectivity to your argument. What you're basically saying is that your view of morality is determined by your social circle. No matter if your view can be logically shown to be immoral as long as your circle of friends view your opinion as a moral one you won't think of changing.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Hopefully people never move to "legalize all drugs". Oh, wait....

Doesn't matter in the end, I guess. People make their own decisions, and I'll smack my kids if they choose to indulge as a lifestyle.

So, hopefully, society's god awful decisions won't affect me.
Hopefully, people will move to "legalize all drugs".

Yes, people make their own decisions and I would hope I have educated my kids enough so that they make intelligent choices for themselves rather than rely on Government to tell them how to live their lives.

And society's decisions regarding drugs should have no impact on my decisions.
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Old 11-11-2012, 08:05 PM
 
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Personally, I like to think laws are grounded in morality...
So weed is immoral? Upon what do you base that conclusion?
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