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Old 11-14-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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Four years ago, Obama and dthe Democrat's grand scheme for imposing Federal control upon a much greater protion of the economy was quickly exposed via the Tea Party and other grass roots movements of the type the dreamer deologues from within the Belteay find sooooh distasteful.
I think you mean the Heritage Foundation and Newt Gingrich's and Mitt Romney's plan for a fair distribution of the medical expenses we all bear for uninsured individuals, by requiring the personal responsibility conservatives and Republicans claim as part of their platform.
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The strategy of the Democratic leadership is becoming more obvious; build a coalition of the economicaly unsophisticated, demonize the opposition, and allow the economy to blunder along with minimal growth whille other societies grow much faster, just as was done in Mexico for seventy years. It will fail -- the only questions are how soon, how rapidly, who will be hurt the worst in the process, and what parts of real American democracy will survive.
Democrats have built a coalition of extraordinarily talented and learned economists and have sought to hold responsible the segments of our society that have caused the greatest economic damage by asking them to step up and do what's right for the country and not just their pocketbooks, which has allowed — and will continue to allow — us to recover from the devastation we suffered in the wake of irresponsible Republican policies, while our European and Latin American counterparts are still suffering enormously under the heavy weight of unworkable austerity that the Republican Party would have had us buried under had they had their way.

Were we to continue to allow Republicans to drive our economic policy, we would continue on our current path that's making us look more and more like modern-day Mexico, with a poverty class and an elite class and no middle class at all, and Americans escaping across our northern border in search of a better life for our families.

 
Old 11-14-2012, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Fort Worth Texas
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The Democratic Party consistently fights for:
  • Thriving wages for workers.
  • Workplace laws that support families, such as family and medical leave.
  • Protections for the middle class who disproportionately have been forced to live on credit, from usurious interest rates, fees, and deceptive credit card terms.
  • Protections for consumers from unscrupulous banking practices.
While the Republican Party consistently fights for:
  • Eliminating the minimum wage.
  • Eliminating consumer protections from banks and credit card companies.
  • Taking food off the table of hungry families and children by slashing the SNAP program.
  • Doing away with as many of the Survival Security programs we've been forced to rely on due to substandard wages.
  • Tax laws that favor the wealthy over the middle class.
In the meantime, when Republicans controlled all three branches of government, their policies left us with:
  • A housing market in crisis and an unprecedented number of foreclosures.
  • The most massive banking failures since the Reagan Savings and Loan Crisis.
  • The gushing of nearly a million jobs a month from the private sector.
  • The utter collapse of Lehman Brothers and bailout of AIG.
  • The American Auto Industry at risk of going out of existence.
  • The stock market crashing.
  • And hundreds of millions of Americans losing nearly half their life-time accumulated wealth, which is what forced the millions and millions of American families onto food stamps in the first place.
When Democrats took over the helm, we:
  • Prevented a full-on Depression.
  • Stopped the bleeding of jobs, reversed the trend, and are now adding nearly 200,000 new jobs per month.
  • Saved the auto industry.
  • Saved Wall Street's hide.
  • Passed the stimulus and put people back to work when the private sector couldn't.
  • Put the highest profits in history into corporate coffers.
  • Nearly doubled the stock market.
  • Ended an unnecessary war and brought our brave servicemembers home to their families.
  • Passed the Republican version of Health Care Reform.
  • Stopped discriminating on the basis of sexual orientation in our military.
  • Ensured women could sue their employers if they learn they've illegally been underpaid relative their male counterparts.
  • Signed a new START with Russia.
  • Improved health care for children.
  • Passed banking reform.
  • Established the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau.
  • Improved Veterans benefits.
All in all, the Democratic Congress and President Obama passed more legislation than any president since the 1960s. And President Obama oversaw all of this while also dealing with:
Not to mention uprisings and protests in Iran, Egypt, Tunisia, Yemen, Bahrain and Libya; a global economic meltdown (Europe is still suffering immensely but we've pulled out of the crisis relatively well); several terrorist attack attempts here in the U.S., and an utterly obstructionist House who took us to the edge of default and cost us our formerly-pristine AAA credit rating.

Voters across the country looked at the last 8 to 12 years, listened to what each candidate said they would do if elected, and overwhelmingly Americans chose President Obama's plan and vision for America over Mitt Romney's and the Republican Party's, which was nothing more than Bush on steroids with an added dose of Medicare on vouchers.

In the wake of their catastrophic loss, instead of trying to learn from their mistakes, the GOP is splintering, finger-pointing, doubling down, and still getting it completely wrong.

If they don't get their sh&& together really, really fast, they will very soon be a party our children learn about in their history books.
And yet he claims the republicans are obstructionist as you claim he passed more legislation than any president in history.
And if democrats have their way America history will stop
 
Old 11-14-2012, 01:22 PM
 
Location: Redondo Beach, CA
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And yet he claims the republicans are obstructionist as you claim he passed more legislation than any president in history.
That landmark occurred prior to the 2010 midterm elections when Republicans in the House began their irresponsible obstructionist behavior. The country is fortunate that we have really hard-working Senators who were able to defeat their Republican colleagues' unprecedented number of filibusters and/or threats of same.
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And if democrats have their way America history will stop
No it won't.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 01:25 PM
 
Location: North America
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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?

That is exclusively up to the GOP. They need to drag their butts into the 21st century, and stop allowing Rush Limpbutt to be their spokesperson.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Default I never get tired

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I'm starting to wonder why we Democrats are wasting our time telling righties what the problems are in their Republican party as obviously they aint listening and continue to live in their little hatefilled rightwing media generated alternate universe where every one is against them..
F... .m let em drown in their own delusional b sh.t
I never tire of letting those pathetic regressives know that they stink. Make no mistake about it, the stench that they have long represented and continue to represent, always deserves a response. I'm more than happy to be among those enlightened folks who continually give that response.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 03:19 PM
 
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And if democrats have their way America history will stop
So righties and their FOX alternate reality generator comes to the profound conclusion that Democrats are now going to stop history... really?
 
Old 11-14-2012, 05:35 PM
 
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Well I know for us gay people most of us feel are only given one choice. Being legally a full citizen comes before the economy or anything else. That includes the close family and friends too. To us gay rights are also a personal economic concern as well. To non gays who arent close to one of us it seems disturbing thrir main concern is the possibility that gays might be trated equall how could we even consider voting for a party that has bigotry against us as part of their platform?
 
Old 11-14-2012, 05:40 PM
 
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Republicans need to stop opposing the liberty of gay people and women/reproduction. Doesn't mean the government should have affirmative action or pay for abortions.

To me that perfectly fits in with the smaller, less intrusive government philosophy from which we have strayed.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 05:41 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default Is this the death of the Republican party, or will they emerge stronger?

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President Obama being the first president to win re-election despite a horrendous economy is clearly a crushing blow to the Republican party. It is a clear signal that they do not currently have what it takes to win elections in this country. Will this election be the end of the GOP? Will the party split up into a number of smaller fractions? Or will they figure out how to emerge stronger than ever, with a realigining midterm election reminiscent of 1994?
So far, the GOP isn't showing the slightest hint that they get it.

They don't have many more elections to get rid of the right wing religious kooks. Because if they don't, that's all they'll have left.
 
Old 11-14-2012, 08:20 PM
 
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Unless they completely destroy and recreate themselves with an ideology that is not rooted in racism, ignorance, narrow-mindedness, bigotry, backwardnes, and the preservation of the "unearned privilege", they will continue to bleed to death. No way in frankenhell that they can come back "stronger" with the same regressive beliefs. They are the party of the most shameful part of this country's past.

As long as they have repulsive creatures like Limbaugh, Romney, Ryan, Cantor, Boehner, McConnell, Hannity, Beck, Palin, Scott Brown, Scott Walker, Cheney, Bush, Paul, Trump, Christie, Bachmann, Rick Scott, Gov. Brewer, Gingrich, and all representing them, they will remain LOSERS who are part of the problem.

A 50 year old man who is a Republican has wasted 50 years of his life.
This x 1000.

Here in Houston you can add Michael Berry to that list. Oh, and you forgot that oh so pleasant jolly old Mark Levin.

I made it to age 47 as a republican. That was 2010. Then I got to listen to what these buttplugs and their teabag idiots thought of me and millions of others who were long term unemployed. They couldn't wait to throw us under the bus.

@#$% them. And their families too.

I don't care how they rebrand. A rebranded snake is just that, a snake.
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