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Obama gets credit for making the call to kill Osama. Of course ANY president would have made the same call. Wow what a brilliant call for Obama to make. " Mr President, we have been hunting down Osama for years and have used the intel from waterboarding during the Bush administration to find Osama. Should we get him?" Yes, kill him and give me credit ASAP. Don't try to capture him for intel. Don't even wait long enough to go through all the intel we found at his safe house to capture other terrorists. Idiot!
As far as Benghazi. The commander-in-chief should have made the call to provide security for his embassies and also to resist the attack during the 7 hour siege. Idiot!
Absolutely no evidence that any president would've made that call. Had all the Seals been killed or captured (a real possibility), it could've meant the end of his presidency.
Barack Obama deserves no credit for killing Osama bin Laden because he didn't pull the trigger like the Navy SEAL did though he gave the order in Washington after George W. Bush had eight years to do the same thing. Meanwhile, it's all Barack Obama's fault that whole quagmire in Benghazi unfolded when he wasn't debriefed about it until after it all happened. Am I reading all this right, folks?
Man, you sure are on a roll: have you thought about posting something other than let's start an argument post? I don't know of many who say he is to be given no credit for Bin Laden, most are saying including a lot of Demorcrats, is took years of planning and the Navy Seals to end his life. Of course Obama gets some credit, this is something few would disagree with, he just doesn't get all the credit like he wants: Talk about Bush and 8 years, how about Clinton, he could have done it in a second, but didn't. As for Benghazi, you have no clue what really happened. if he wasn't briefed it was his fault, he was so busy running for re-election he neglected his duty many are saying: regardless, he lied and asked others to do the same. What happened can't be blamed directly on him, at least not now, but the cover up can...
Man, you sure are on a roll: have you thought about posting something other than let's start an argument post? I don't know of many who say he is to be given no credit for Bin Laden, most are saying including a lot of Demorcrats, is took years of planning and the Navy Seals to end his life. Of course Obama gets some credit, this is something few would disagree with, he just doesn't get all the credit like he wants: Talk about Bush and 8 years, how about Clinton, he could have done it in a second, but didn't. As for Benghazi, you have no clue what really happened. if he wasn't briefed it was his fault, he was so busy running for re-election he neglected his duty many are saying: regardless, he lied and asked others to do the same. What happened can't be blamed directly on him, at least not now, but the cover up can...
Barack Obama DOES get the credit because he authorized the mission and gave the order. If the operation was unsuccessful, Rush Limbaugh and the GOP would've had a field day with it. Clinton at least tried to get Osama bin Laden. What about Reagan? He's the one who trained Osama.
If Barack Obama gets no credit for killing Osama, then the SEALs killed an innocent man. Adolf Hitler never killed anyone, but he did authorize the extermination of 6 million Jews. Slobadan Milosevic never killed anyone, but who ordered the ethnic cleansing of Albanians. Osama bin Laden never killed anyone, but he did orchestrate the 9/11 attacks.
You have no clue what happened with Benghazi, either. What was Mitt Romney doing the whole time? The same thing he did when Hurricane Sandy hit? He was campaigning. Oh yeah! He also excused the guy who made the anti-Muslim hate film which provoked the attack.
The GOP has zero culpability. It's just like that hogwash about Reagan taking credit for rescuing the hostages in Iran. The rescue happened on January 20, 1981. Yet the GOP seems to think that a president with Alzheimer's in its initial stages all of a sudden hammered out a rescue plan instantaneously all while giving his inaugural speech and during the inauguration parade, ceremony, and all the festivities afterward that happened well into the night.
Barack Obama DOES get the credit because he authorized the mission and gave the order. If the operation was unsuccessful, Rush Limbaugh and the GOP would've had a field day with it. Clinton at least tried to get Osama bin Laden. What about Reagan? He's the one who trained Osama.
I just had a mental image of Reagan in the hills of Afghanistan showing bin Laden how to fire a weapon. That was enjoyable.
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If Barack Obama gets no credit for killing Osama, then the SEALs killed an innocent man. Adolf Hitler never killed anyone, but he did authorize the extermination of 6 million Jews. Slobadan Milosevic never killed anyone, but who ordered the ethnic cleansing of Albanians. Osama bin Laden never killed anyone, but he did orchestrate the 9/11 attacks.
Obama gets credit for giving the go ahead order to take out bin Laden. What he doesn't get credit for is pulling the trigger. On the downside of this, bin Laden's body was supposedly dumped in the ocean, and I've yet to see official pictures of the body. Not wanting to be macabre here, but it may have been a good idea to actually release some evidence that the deed had been accomplished.
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You have no clue what happened with Benghazi, either. What was Mitt Romney doing the whole time? The same thing he did when Hurricane Sandy hit? He was campaigning. Oh yeah! He also excused the guy who made the anti-Muslim hate film which provoked the attack.
Frankly, I don't care what Mitt Romney was doing at the time. Obama, as the Commander in Chief, should have known what was happening during the attack, not to mention that he should have authorized sufficient security to protect the staff. We're talking about a president that has authorized the use of drones more frequently than any previous president. Reports have stated that there was a Predator drone overhead during the attack, as well as that there was personnel on the ground with laser designating equipment. In that situation, it seems that a drone strike was not only possible, but should have been the recommended course of action. While it may not have saved the embassy personnel, it surely would have helped their situation.
Exactly why, in a nation that promotes and protects freedom of speech, should the maker of a film be blamed for the actions of extremists? The very idea that a video led to the deaths of U.S. citizens is proof that freedom of speech is fast becoming a lost right.
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The GOP has zero culpability. It's just like that hogwash about Reagan taking credit for rescuing the hostages in Iran. The rescue happened on January 20, 1981. Yet the GOP seems to think that a president with Alzheimer's in its initial stages all of a sudden hammered out a rescue plan instantaneously all while giving his inaugural speech and during the inauguration parade, ceremony, and all the festivities afterward that happened well into the night.
There is absolutely no proof that Reagan was in the initial stages of Alzheimer's when he was elected. Medical experts have stated that the initial stages most likely started toward the end of his second term.
Obama is a Muslim born in Kenya and educated in the madrassas of Indonesia. He is a socialist and abortionist who is trying to force America to submit Sharia law.
Wait, you forgot the Civilian Militia, FEMA camps and HAARP....oh, yeah, and he's secretly gay married and killed his gay lovers.....
He didn't lie about anything. That's hogwash. Where's Bush's responsibility when it comes to lying about going to war with Iraq and sending 4,000 U.S. soldiers to their doom?
Bush didn't lie about going to war. He acted on information supplied to him.
He didn't lie about anything. That's hogwash. Where's Bush's responsibility when it comes to lying about going to war with Iraq and sending 4,000 U.S. soldiers to their doom?
He didnt lie? Then why the hell did he blame a movie?
As for Bushs responsibility, didnt YOU hold him responsible in your OP? Now you stand here making all sorts of excuses for Obama, even defending his LIES. I call that a hypocrite.
Absolutely no evidence that any president would've made that call. Had all the Seals been killed or captured (a real possibility), it could've meant the end of his presidency.
So what you're saying is complete bullhockey.
Please tell me why ANY other american, wouldnt have made the same call? My 10 year old son would have ordered Obama taken out, do you think he's qualified to be President? I doubt it.. But here you are, claiming Obama is special.. yeha, he's special alright.. There is no way in hell it would have meant the end of his presidency.. thats just bull ****. Hell, had the raid been a failure, or OBL not there, we never would have heard about it.
I know, I kept waiting for someone to state the obvious sarcasm in the post! Maybe, I'm losing my mind, but I do recall earlier post that would clearly show this most recent post is sarcastic!
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