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Old 11-14-2012, 10:57 AM
 
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Originally Posted by MTAtech View Post
Gee, the guy who lost the election proclaims the winner doesn't have a mandate. How self-serving.

He also said Romney/Ryan lost because of too many urban voters.
Translated: "i'm a stinking hater because i lost, and he only won because the damn blacks had the nerve to vote for him."

Sad, because i thought Ryan was better than that. Guess not.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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Some lame duck!!!!! Just wait and see. He was Mr. nice guy in his firsr administration. This time he's going to mop the floor with obstructionists and their American hating allies.

How? Barack cannot spend ONE DIME without it coming from Congress first.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:02 AM
 
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By being elected, Mr. Obama has a mandate to do what he said he would do. The problem is that, also by being elected, members of the House and Senate have mandates to do what they said they would do. Since not much changed in the election, the mandate is essentially for more of the same.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:06 AM
 
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By being elected, Mr. Obama has a mandate to do what he said he would do. The problem is that, also by being elected, members of the House and Senate have mandates to do what they said they would do. Since not much changed in the election, the mandate is essentially for more of the same.

Fewer people voted for Barack this time than the last time. He has apparently LOST some of his "mandate".
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:09 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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By being elected, Mr. Obama has a mandate to do what he said he would do. The problem is that, also by being elected, members of the House and Senate have mandates to do what they said they would do. Since not much changed in the election, the mandate is essentially for more of the same.
It did change minimally, though in democrats' favor. But, yes, Obama should do, what he was elected to do, and I'm glad he has given his opposition two choices:
- Leave tax cuts in place for all but top income groups
Or
- Take responsibility for letting them go up for everybody

I'm sure he feels better for not having to compromise this time around. And so do I.

Now, what can idiots like Ryan do about it? Take one, or the other. And go cry a river.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:10 AM
 
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He has a mandate in so far as he won but what I think Ryan is getting at is that Obama didn't win because there was some big outcry in the land for higher taxes.

You had 12% of the population vote for Obama because he was a Black Dem, an untold percentage of single women wanted govt funded contraception and abortions, another wanted amnesty for their compadres and the rest simply didn't like the other guy.
As if anything you're saying here makes a difference. Come on..get real. A win is a win.
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Dont care about what Ryan thinks, but Obama sure doesnt have a mandate from me.
Obama will be calling you first thing in the morning to get your personal approval.

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Fewer people voted for Barack this time than the last time. He has apparently LOST some of his "mandate".
Again, saying things that have absolutely NO meaning.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:14 AM
 
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Fewer people voted for Barack this time than the last time. He has apparently LOST some of his "mandate".
That's not really how it works. How would you operationalize this decrease of mandate? Should he seek to raise taxes by a lower rate, decide that he has a mandate on one issue and not on another? He was elected on whatever platform he presented and that was what was voted into office. Mr. Ryan was elected on his platform which is to oppose the increase in taxes and he has a mandate to do so based on the fact that his constituents supported him in that plan. How those get resolved is where politics and leadership come into play and that has been a mess in this country for quite some time.
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Old 11-14-2012, 11:15 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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He has a mandate in so far as he won but what I think Ryan is getting at is that Obama didn't win because there was some big outcry in the land for higher taxes.

You had 12% of the population vote for Obama because he was a Black Dem, an untold percentage of single women wanted govt funded contraception and abortions, another wanted amnesty for their compadres and the rest simply didn't like the other guy.
No?


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Old 11-14-2012, 11:17 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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The Repub. Gov. are now trying to look sane and running away from the Leg. and Sen. of their states to be elected again. The issue is more people will be able to see inside the state govt. and will not be happy with what they see.
Yep.
Perfect example here:


"Gov. Rick Scott, who has been one of the leading voices on Obamacare opposition, says he’s now ready to figure out how to implement the law in his state. “The election is over and President Obama won," Scott told The Associated Press last night. “I'm responsible for the families of Florida. ... If I can get to yes, I want to get to yes.”"


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Old 11-14-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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It did change minimally, though in democrats' favor. But, yes, Obama should do, what he was elected to do, and I'm glad he has given his opposition two choices:
- Leave tax cuts in place for all but top income groups
Or
- Take responsibility for letting them go up for everybody

I'm sure he feels better for not having to compromise this time around. And so do I.

Now, what can idiots like Ryan do about it? Take one, or the other. And go cry a river.
Presidents do not have the constitutional power to do anything. They are not kings. If he cannot convince the Congress to go along then that is HIS problem.
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