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Old 11-14-2012, 08:49 PM
 
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Trade extension of Bush tax cuts for passage of tax and budget reforms.

Usually art follows nature but on many occasions we should profit from arts’ examples.
The film “With Honors” portrayed a homeless man negotiating the return of a Harvard senior’s entire term’s thesis by offering pages for meals.

Obama should negotiate with congress in a similar manner by first determining weights and priorities of legislation he seeks and then break them down to smaller individual drafts. He should then pronounce his willingness to sign extensions of some Bush’s tax reductions for fixed numbers of months or permanently dependent upon the quantities and qualities of congressional passed tax remedies.
If the U.S. Congress passes acceptable tax and budget remedies sooner, USA’s federal budget and our rates for taxing regular incomes and general purchases will be remedied sooner. Otherwise it will come about later or possibly not prior to the 2016 elections.

Obama’s opponents would have limited options:
Congress could override the president’s vetoes with 2/3 votes;
or upon failing to override vetoes, they could try again after the 2014 elections;
or upon failing to capture 2/3 of the 2015 U.S. Congress, they could try to gain the White House in the 2016 elections.

Our nation’s economy will suffer if Obama does not require the Republicans to give back more than his watered down compromises the Republicans refused to consider prior to the 2010 elections.

Additional details in the following message entitled “Obama’s failures to strive”.
Respectfully, Supposn
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Old 11-14-2012, 08:54 PM
 
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Obama’s failures to strive.

Obama’s practice has been to acquiesce or completely submit rather strongly negotiating. Prior to the 2010 elections, Democrats feared debating the federal budget on the floors of both congressional chambers. I do not share the extent and priorities of the Green Party but had no problem casting only one vote in 2010 for my congressional district’s Green Party candidate. It was the most direct display of my dissatisfaction with Democrats’ rightward movement. I refrained from voting for Democrats.
Prior to 2010 I changed my party affiliation from Democrat to Green Party. (I had voted for Democrats in every general election since 1959; I failed to vote within very few Democratic primary elections). If the Democrats had confronted the Republicans prior to the 2010 elections, I would among many others have supported the Democratic Party.

[Failure is acceptable; little of sustained worth is accomplished without some setbacks. Negotiated compromises are acceptable; surrender or submission is unacceptable. Obama’s lack of leadership enabled the Republicans to hold the debt ceiling, and our entire federal budget as hostage and greatly extended the time and the sacrifices necessary until our nation’s economy can recover].

In 2011 there were no Green Party candidates within my election district and until the last quarter prior to the elections, Obama continued to submit. For the first time in my life I chose not to vote. I don’t trust political positions emerging just prior to elections.
Republicans completely reversed their prior acceptance of Romneycare’s policy for those not medically insured by their employers and having incomes justifying mandated personal health insurance. Hospitals and the government should not be financially liable for individuals' that choose not to purchase insurance they can obviously afford; government can not afford the consequences of people's excessive stingyness or foolishness.
When Republicans reversed themselves, Democrats should have returned to their position for a single payer (subsidized if necessary) for minimally qualified commercial and/or government option medical insurance.

In 2012 federal Romneycare survived a conservative U.S. Supreme Court’s decision. The conservatives’ 5/4 decision was far from predictable. Determination of policy should be more subject to fully vented considerations of facts rather than depending upon political ambiguity and the momentary consequences of chance.

Although Obama continued to argue against extending the Bush for the top income bracket, he did not begin, mention within the body, and end each speech with an explicit declaration that he would certainly not sign any bill that provided such a tax cut. Furthermore I believe it was foolish for all Democrats not to have declared their admiration and support for federal ROMNEYCARE at ever possible opportunity.
Had Obama and the Democrats run in such a manner, I would have voted for Democrats in the 2012 election. In 2012 I voted for every Green Party candidate running in my congressional district. (I suppose I would have voted for Democrats if I lived in a “swing state”).

If voters such as I would have cost Democrats the White House, they would have deserved such a consequence.
I did betray my pledge to refrain from voting for Democrats. There was no 2012 Green Party candidate for the U.S. Senate; I betrayed my own pledge and voted for the Democratic candidate. My hope is that he acts and votes as a respectful but firm populist willing to negotiate for feasible outcomes.

Respectfully, Supposn

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Old 11-14-2012, 09:02 PM
 
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Nope. Go off the "cliff, it's really more of a fiscal curb anyway, and not only do the cuts happen but the temperary tax cuts go away too. Then negotiate from a position of strength. We already get what we want just by making sure nothing happens so it reverses the position the GOP normally has of blocking everything and now they HAVE to cooperate to get ANYTHING.
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Old 11-15-2012, 03:58 AM
 
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Nope. Go off the "cliff, it's really more of a fiscal curb anyway, and not only do the cuts happen but the temperary tax cuts go away too. Then negotiate from a position of strength. We already get what we want just by making sure nothing happens so it reverses the position the GOP normally has of blocking everything and now they HAVE to cooperate to get ANYTHING.
Think4Yourself, aren’t we in agreement? Aren’t you also proposing bartering desirable budget and tax remedies for reductions of regular income tax rates?

Respectfully, Supposn
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