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View Poll Results: What should the U.S. do regards to the conflicts between Israel and Palestine?
We need to support Israel ! 76 44.44%
We need to support Palestine (Arabs) ! 17 9.94%
We should NOT support/care about their own conflicts ! 78 45.61%
Voters: 171. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-16-2012, 09:32 AM
 
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Absolutely! We didn't support Apartheid South Africa we shouldn't be supporting Apartheid Israel.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Sango, TN
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We have no mutual defense treaty with Israel, therefore they are not our "ally" in the sense in which you are speaking.
April 6, 1979Agreement creating the Joint Political Military Group and Joint Security Assistance Program
May 4th 1988, Agreement of mutual defense

April 6th, 1979, Agreement creating the Joint political Military Group and Joint Security Assistance Program.

Yes, We have a mutual defense treaty with Israel.

Formal U.S.-Israel Agreements
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:34 AM
 
Location: NJ
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if mexico fired 1 missile into america, we would want to see body counts in the thousands. israel is way too tolerant. they need to get the body count of "palestinians" much higher than 23. thats pathetic.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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So you and people you know really think if Israel goes away, the "Crazy Muslims" will leave the US alone, is this what you think?

By the way not all Christians believe the world is ending soon...... some day, but probably not soon!!

Israel is an ally and a stable country, that has many enemies surrounding them. Maybe, you and your friends ought to spend a week in Israel and see just how they live and deal with suicide bombers and rockets hitting their homes. To stand down and not support Israel, is like saying Hamas and Muslim Brotherhood won.........I don't think this is an American way!!! Crazy Christians
I am a Christian too. I am only speaking of the "Crazy Christians", of which there are many. Just like there are crazy Jews, Muslims, Atheists, etc. I've never met a crazy Buddhist though haha.

And yes, I believe if The US leaves the entire region alone, we would remove ourselves from the equation and all the blowback that comes with it. I'm sorry, but how many years are you willing to have our service men and women die in this region?

Israel is one of the most technologically advanced countries in the World, with an excellent military and oh yeah, over 300 nukes. Do I feel empathy for Israelis and Palestinians? Yes I do, but that part of the world has ALWAYS BEEN UNSTABLE. The United States is a wonderful, safe country for Jews and Muslims alike and my ONLY concern is preserving this ideal.

We have tried being the World Police for decades. It's time to give it up.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:38 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Fair enough.....

What is a good alternative to dealing with the constant barrage of rockets they were dealing with from Gaza?
Just like those darn indians. If only they didn't exist, then the Europeans would've had it easy.

Why can't people just take other people's homes and land without conflict!!??

Sheesh. Always someone making things difficult!



Peace!
Brian
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:44 AM
 
Location: NJ
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Just like those darn indians. If only they didn't exist, then the Europeans would've had it easy.

Why can't people just take other people's homes and land without conflict!!??

Sheesh. Always someone making things difficult!

Peace!
Brian
its really silly using this argument to favor the muslims. they took those lands and they would have no problem taking anyone else's lands.
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Old 11-16-2012, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Michigan
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So you and people you know really think if Israel goes away, the "Crazy Muslims" will leave the US alone, is this what you think?
It may be too late for that, but it's worth a shot.

BTW, as I've pointed out many times, the PLO was founded by Marxists, not practicing Muslims. You can take a look at the PLO Charter, which is steeped in nationalist and Marxist language and mentions Islam zero times.

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Israel is an ally and a stable country, that has many enemies surrounding them.
They are not our ally; we have no defense treaty with them, we simply choose to act as though we do.

Their enemies are ones they made by invading Palestine and dispossessing the inhabitants under credible threat of massacre.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:27 PM
 
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if mexico fired 1 missile into america, we would want to see body counts in the thousands. israel is way too tolerant. they need to get the body count of "palestinians" much higher than 23. thats pathetic.

if america stole te ju anna by way of evicting those mexicans living there , demolishing their houses and filling them with russians , mexicans would rightfully be p1ssed
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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May 4th 1988, Agreement of mutual defense

April 6th, 1979, Agreement creating the Joint political Military Group and Joint Security Assistance Program.

Yes, We have a mutual defense treaty with Israel.
Neither of those agreements obligates us to intervene to defend Israel if they are attacked.
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Old 11-16-2012, 12:59 PM
 
Location: Italy
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if mexico fired 1 missile into america, we would want to see body counts in the thousands. israel is way too tolerant. they need to get the body count of "palestinians" much higher than 23. thats pathetic.
Wow, that ^^^^^ sounds really morally inspiring. A real quality post.

Why stop there? Why not just kill everyone? Why not just detonate a few ICBMs scattered around the whole region? That would be a real sign of Godliness.




Peace.
brian
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