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Old 11-16-2012, 09:46 AM
 
Location: North America
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And it isn't being paid by anybody or other people today?

I keep pointing that out, but they seem to skip over that point. Man, it's like trying to teach calculus to an ADHD kid.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:48 AM
 
Location: Dallas, TX
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I keep pointing that out, but they seem to skip over that point. Man, it's like trying to teach calculus to an ADHD kid.
I would give them a benefit of doubt if it even required calculus. Its not even math! These idiots think they are being seen as geniuses while proving their real self over and over again.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:57 AM
 
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If you have any actual numbers on that, I'd be really interested to see what they really are.
Here you go: according to U.S. Census figures for 2007 (Table 2b, latest available), of the approx. 6 million firms with employees in the U.S., 89.4% employ at least one but fewer than 20 employees.

Since the table's categories break down at 20 and 100 employees, it's reasonable to assume that there are a significant additional number of firms employing more than 20 individual employees but fewer than 50 FTE: an additional 3% is probably very conservative, or approx. 92.5% of all firms with employees in the U.S. who would not be subject to the 50+ FTE rule.
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Old 11-16-2012, 09:59 AM
 
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Here you go: according to U.S. Census figures for 2007 (Table 2b, latest available), of the approx. 6 million firms with employees in the U.S., 89.4% employ at least one but fewer than 20 employees.
Thank you.

That's what I thought. The very large majority of small businesses have nowhere near 50 employees, part time or otherwise.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:03 AM
 
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I would give them a benefit of doubt if it even required calculus. Its not even math! These idiots think they are being seen as geniuses while proving their real self over and over again.

The thing it, the information is there, in plain English, but nobody will click the damned link, much less read the facts. They would much rather listen to the talking heads than vet the facts for themselves.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:13 AM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If 89% of business employ less than 20 workers then this is a non issue
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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If 89% of business employ less than 20 workers then this is a non issue



That's what I've been trying to say for two days now.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:17 AM
 
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If 89% of business employ less than 20 workers then this is a non issue

Thank you.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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So were all their part time workers already working under 30 hours ?
Doesn't matter if you don't have 50 employees.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:19 AM
 
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Here you go: according to U.S. Census figures for 2007 (Table 2b, latest available), of the approx. 6 million firms with employees in the U.S., 89.4% employ at least one but fewer than 20 employees.

Since the table's categories break down at 20 and 100 employees, it's reasonable to assume that there are a significant additional number of firms employing more than 20 individual employees but fewer than 50 FTE: an additional 3% is probably very conservative, or approx. 92.5% of all firms with employees in the U.S. who would not be subject to the 50+ FTE rule.
Yep, actually the White House paper I've been quoting ad nauseum actually puts the number at 96.4. - 5.8 million out of 6.

Of the remaining employers, 0.02 percent or roughly 10,000 businesses don't already have insurance in place, and will have to adjust to the new law.

This was a mandate on individuals, not business.
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