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Old 11-16-2012, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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If they can ban 32 oz soda they can ban cigarettes.
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:12 PM
 
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Amazing how accurate warnings from two hundred years ago were.......

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.


Thomas Jefferson

Chip

Chip

Chip

One by one our freedoms are being taken away....
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Old 11-16-2012, 07:27 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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They would get more bang for their buck if they implemented a fast food license and allow you 3 FF meals a week.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:13 PM
 
Location: FL
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Didn't all this type of thinking start with seat belt and helmet laws?
You cannot change peoples behaviors through legislation.
Agree Chip...chip...chip...freedom to think for ourselves not far from being gone.
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Texas
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They would get more bang for their buck if they implemented a fast food license and allow you 3 FF meals a week.
It's politically incorrect to offend the obese (except in NYC I guess). But it's quite politically correct to hate on smokers...
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:19 PM
 
Location: USA
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Amazing how accurate warnings from two hundred years ago were.......

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.


Thomas Jefferson

Chip

Chip

Chip

One by one our freedoms are being taken away....
I missed how the article says we're actually losing freedoms, can you point out where it said that?
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Old 11-16-2012, 08:29 PM
 
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I missed how the article says we're actually losing freedoms, can you point out where it said that?
Hmmm, some other things that started off just like this smoking debate and we saw how they turned out:

~ toilet bowls
~ lightbulbs
~ free speech
~ freedom of association
~ Right to a speedy and public trial
~ Right to liberty
~ Privacy rights

Read the Patriot Act: http://www.fincen.gov/statutes_regs/patriot/

Here's some other things:

1. Useless your children has certain vaccinations they can not attend school.
2. Maybe your state does or does not require helmet for motorcycle riders.
3. Mandatory helmets for bicycle riders
4. The ability of a business owner to decide for himself whether to have a smoking and nonsmoking section in his bar.
5. In some locals you can not park your car on your lawn.
6. Grass must be kept cut below 4 inches in height
7. If you car does not run it can not be kept on your property
8. If you have a dog it must be fenced in or on a chain outside but no laws concerning cats running around the neighborhood.
9. You can not hunt on your own property on in the country within a quarter of a mile from any road.
10. You can not vote in a primary election unless you are registered in the same party as that candidate. That may vary from state to state.
11. Alcohol can not be sold on election day.

Personal Freedoms Taken Away? - CNN iReport
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:13 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Amazing how accurate warnings from two hundred years ago were.......

Experience hath shewn, that even under the best forms [of government] those entrusted with power have, in time, and by slow operations, perverted it into tyranny.

Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have ... The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases.


Thomas Jefferson

Chip

Chip

Chip

One by one our freedoms are being taken away....
"Don't believe everything you read on the internet."
-Abraham Lincoln


Nice quote you posted there, too bad it is completely false.

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The following statement, or variations thereof, is often attributed to Thomas Jefferson:


"A government big enough to give you everything you need, is a government big enough to take away everything that you have...."

We have never found such a statement in Jefferson's writings. As far as we know, this statement actually originates with Gerald R. Ford, who said, "A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take from you everything you have," in an address to a joint session of Congress on August 12, 1974.[1]


This quotation is sometimes followed by, "The course of history shows that as a government grows, liberty decreases," which is most likely a misquotation of Jefferson's comment, "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yeild, and government to gain ground."[2]
Government big enough to give you everything you want...(Quotation) « Thomas Jefferson
My dad always said, if it sounds like it is too good to be true, it probably isn't true, and your Thomas Jefferson quote isn't true, so maybe you can stop using.
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Old 11-16-2012, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Houston
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You cannot change peoples behaviors through legislation.
Agree Chip...chip...chip...freedom to think for ourselves not far from being gone.
Actually you can. When someone points a gun at you and tells you to do something you tend to do it.
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Old 11-17-2012, 08:09 AM
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Location: New Jersey
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I don't support a smoker's license, even though the article doesn't mention any serious thought of one here. There his, however, no "freedom to smoke" anywhere you want, so people need to stop whining about loosing a freedom they don't have. Smoking should be available to those who wish to engage in it in their homes or vehicles so long as there are no minors in those paces and the smoke is contained to those areas. No need for a license.
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