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Old 11-19-2012, 08:01 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Actually, I disagree on this. Israel is perfectly capable of defending itself, with or without our help, which they have proven many times since 1948. The reason I feel that we need to be involved in any military action that Israel takes is because without outside intervention the aftermath is going to be Ugly. The Israelis aren't known for forgiveness, and I seriously believe that any nation or organization that tries to take them on in a serious military conflict is going to be looking at the distinct possibility of non-existence.
You were about to tell us how many nations Israel has already put out of existence, weren't you?

(Hint: the answer is somewhere between 1 and -1)

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We need to be involved in order to keep the Israelis from going overboard on their retaliation, quite frankly.
Israel is not "retaliating". They have decided that more of them will die if they don't go in and eliminate the Hamas liars and murderers, than if they do go in and eliminate the Hamas liars and murderers. So they are now starting to do what they must to avoid getting murdered even more than they have been for these many years.

If hornets built a nest in your back yard, and you and your kids and your other loved ones kept getting stung, how long would you wait before going out to get rid of the nest? And when you fihnally did, would you be doing it to "retaliate" against the hornets?

No.

"Retaliation" is a word falsely applied by the Hamas murderers and their sycophants around the world, in an attempt to pretend the Israelis have no more reason to make war against them than some kind of unreasoning lust to kill. The fact that the Hamas leaders themselves are at the root of the problem, and that they themselves are the ones with the unreasoning hatred and desire to keep attacking and killing the Israelis, is something they hope will never be brought out.

You might be angry at the hornets, but the plain fact is, if they had left you alone all those years, you would be happy to live and let live. It is the continuous actions of the hornets, not any "lust" from you, that made you decide to get rid of them.

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Old 11-19-2012, 08:33 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
You were about to tell us how many nations Israel has already put out of existence, weren't you?

(Hint: the answer is somewhere between 1 and -1)


Israel is not "retaliating". They have decided that more of them will die if they don't go in and eliminate the Hamas liars and murderers, than if they do go in and eliminate the Hamas liars and murderers. So they are now starting to do what they must to avoid getting murdered even more than they have been for these many years.

If hornets built a nest in your back yard, and you and your kids and your other loved ones kept getting stung, how long would you wait before going out to get rid of the nest? And when you fihnally did, would you be doing it to "retaliate" against the hornets?

No.

"Retaliation" is a word falsely applied by the Hamas murderers and their sycophants around the world, in an attempt to pretend the Israelis have no more reason to make war against them than some kind of unreasoning lust to kill. The fact that the Hamas leaders themselves are at the root of the problem, and that they themselves are the ones with the unreasoning hatred and desire to keep attacking and killing the Israelis, is something they hope will never be brought out.

You might be angry at the hornets, but the plain fact is, if they had left you alone all those years, you would be happy to live and let live. It is the continuous actions of the hornets, not any "lust" from you, that made you decide to get rid of them.
Who created Hamas? hint - to destabilize Arafat

So killing innocent people is only okay if your side does the killing right?
 
Old 11-19-2012, 08:41 AM
 
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Why land for peace is dead – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs
I think this is a good article which tells us why the concept of land for peace will not really work at this point in time.
 
Old 11-19-2012, 08:46 AM
 
Location: Italy
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Originally Posted by Little-Acorn View Post
You were about to tell us how many nations Israel has already put out of existence, weren't you?

(Hint: the answer is somewhere between 1 and -1)


Israel is not "retaliating". They have decided that more of them will die if they don't go in and eliminate the Hamas liars and murderers, than if they do go in and eliminate the Hamas liars and murderers. So they are now starting to do what they must to avoid getting murdered even more than they have been for these many years.

If hornets built a nest in your back yard, and you and your kids and your other loved ones kept getting stung, how long would you wait before going out to get rid of the nest? And when you fihnally did, would you be doing it to "retaliate" against the hornets?

No.

"Retaliation" is a word falsely applied by the Hamas murderers and their sycophants around the world, in an attempt to pretend the Israelis have no more reason to make war against them than some kind of unreasoning lust to kill. The fact that the Hamas leaders themselves are at the root of the problem, and that they themselves are the ones with the unreasoning hatred and desire to keep attacking and killing the Israelis, is something they hope will never be brought out.

You might be angry at the hornets, but the plain fact is, if they had left you alone all those years, you would be happy to live and let live. It is the continuous actions of the hornets, not any "lust" from you, that made you decide to get rid of them.
You couldn't have it more backwards.
The hornets nest was built in 1948.


Peace.
brian
 
Old 11-19-2012, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Israel's hospitals continue to treat Gazan patients: Israel

Also see the BBC's false reporting on Israel:
BBC’s Jon Donnison Tweets malicious fauxtography | BBC Watch

The least Israel can do after bombing Palestinian families and children! Israel has better technology than to bomb homes! IMO, Israel is doing this intentionally.

Your second link is from a twitter???? No credibility with that!
 
Old 11-19-2012, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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You are wrong. Obama does support Israel. Didn't you hear him give Israel lip service?? He said that ANY country that has missiles lobbed at them has the right to defend itself.

What more do you want?
What more do you want? We paid for Israel's Iron Dome. Should our children and grandchildren work to support Israel. israel's economy is doing better than our's.
 
Old 11-19-2012, 09:00 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Both sides need to compromise. But first of all the Palestinian extremists need to stop being bent on Israel's destruction.
How long ago was the last Palestinian home destroyed on the West Bank for yet another Israeli settlement?
 
Old 11-19-2012, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Why land for peace is dead – Global Public Square - CNN.com Blogs
I think this is a good article which tells us why the concept of land for peace will not really work at this point in time.
So, in you mind, israel should just keep destroying Palestinian homes, thereby displacing multiple families, in order to build settlements for themselves? Doesn't seem logical for peace to me.
 
Old 11-19-2012, 09:34 AM
 
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Wow .... what an upside down world you live in. I hate to break the bad news to you, but this map thing is your problem, not mine. There are plenty of maps from the 1930's and dating back to before the United States even existed that show "Palestine" .... what you will not find is one with "Israel", because it was Israel that didn't exist prior to 1947.

Here's a couple of examples.





Now what most Americans believe to be true about Israel and "Palestinians" and modern day Jews is, is a contrived and false history. The truth is, "Palestine" was a region that comprised modern day Israel and the surrounding areas for several hundred years prior to the creation of Israel, and the inhabitants of that region, which included Jews, Muslims and Christians were all "Palestinians". Even after WW I, and the Balfour Accord which called for the creation of a Jewish state referred to the region as Palestine. And later, the United Nations partition plan to create that Jewish State proposed two distinct regions ... a Jewish Palestine, and an Arab Palestine, which they referred to as the 2nd Arab Palestine, considering Trans-Jordan as the 1st Arab region.

Most people are oblivious to the real history of the region, and have operated and formed their opinions on a completely false history, including this PREPOSTEROUS NOTION that there never was a Palestine, and therefore no such thing as Palestinians. It's just pure Zionist propaganda, absent a shred of truth.
Could you please provide the link you got this map from?
 
Old 11-19-2012, 09:37 AM
 
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Israeli intelligence, Mossad, created Hamas as a counter force to create political infighting amongst the Arabs in the occupied territories, and particularly as a counter political force to the PLO.

Hamas is a Creation of Mossad

And Hamas has served a useful purpose for those in the Israeli leadership who do not want peace or the establishment of a true Palestinian State .... the moment international pressure reaches a point to force Israel into negotiating an honest peace agreement, Hamas comes to the rescue and provides some provocation for Israel to leave the negotiating table, claiming that it cannot reach a peace with people attacking her.

Time and again, when the Palestinians were on the verge of achieving international status as a truly aggrieved party ... Hamas steps in and commits some extremely counterproductive atrocity, destroying Palestinian political credibility.
Sounds like they are just as guilty as the US and other countries creating terror groups. It's just the people who suffer from all the leadership in the world.
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