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Hmmm...I think you all need to do some research into the very strange "no record of his birth" and then suddenly the "appearance of a birth certificate" after the "no record" was discovered. I'm sure there is an explanation...right? VBG
Also, whether Kenya was a country or not in 1961, BO was reported as having been born in that "land" no matter what it was named at the time...report was by his grandmother on the national news waves but was "shut up" quickly just before she died.
My position on this discussion is that regardless of where he was born, he was not raised in an American atmosphere, early years in a foreign country, massive exposure to Muslim step-father and school. Is anyone arguing that this scenario would have no effect on his policies?
Also, to that person who said none of it matters "BUT" his policies, can you separate his policy positions from his personal thinking? I can't. His policies are terrible, against all laws of economics and our free-enterprise system and frankly many areas are against our Constitution. This tells me that I will never vote for any person who supports these positions and will certainly carefully study the background of any future candidate that is born of uncertain and unprovable circumstances. You can ignore everything you want, but please remember your responsibility to America when you cast a vote.
Classic rightie delusion and psychobabble. Much as you want the Born in Kenya story to be true,its not or ever will be, you can juggle the alternate reality all you want but ultimately facts are facts,Obama was born in Hawaii as the short and long form birth certificates attest and to add is the birth announcements from two different news papers. 6 years of harping on about the issue and you still havent a shred of proof to back up your bogus claims.Birthers are kinda like when a dog chases its tail.
Lets cut to the chase on what this birther movement is really all about. http://badfiction.typepad.com/.a/6a0...ceb7970b-500wi
Hmmm...I think you all need to do some research into the very strange "no record of his birth" and then suddenly the "appearance of a birth certificate" after the "no record" was discovered. I'm sure there is an explanation...right? VBG
Also, whether Kenya was a country or not in 1961, BO was reported as having been born in that "land" no matter what it was named at the time...report was by his grandmother on the national news waves but was "shut up" quickly just before she died.
My position on this discussion is that regardless of where he was born, he was not raised in an American atmosphere, early years in a foreign country, massive exposure to Muslim step-father and school. Is anyone arguing that this scenario would have no effect on his policies?
Also, to that person who said none of it matters "BUT" his policies, can you separate his policy positions from his personal thinking? I can't. His policies are terrible, against all laws of economics and our free-enterprise system and frankly many areas are against our Constitution. This tells me that I will never vote for any person who supports these positions and will certainly carefully study the background of any future candidate that is born of uncertain and unprovable circumstances. You can ignore everything you want, but please remember your responsibility to America when you cast a vote.
He taught constitutional law for over a decade, so he can worm his way around it. Despicable.
Hmmm...I think you all need to do some research into the very strange "no record of his birth" and then suddenly the "appearance of a birth certificate" after the "no record" was discovered. I'm sure there is an explanation...right? VBG
there's a very good explaination...... hawaiian officials NEVER said there was "no record of his birth".
obama released his COLB (certificate of live birth) in june of 2008. it was confirmed in october 2008 by the HI dept of health:
"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of VitalStatistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures"
... BO was reported as having been born in that "land" no matter what it was named at the time...report was by his grandmother...
nope. sarah obama never made that claim. here is the complete transcript of the interview that birthers distorted into believing that she made such a statement:
Again, I never said a dam*d word about "eligibility" as referenced in the Constitution in my comments about BO's early upbringing.
then you are simply sharing your personal subjective opinion on what qualities you want a POTUS to have. this thread deals with eligibility.
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Or are you one of those "plants" from the White House which I have seen try to come in and "change the subject" when the truth gets too close? Hmmmm! I can spot spin a mile away!
doesn't seem to be the case this time.
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I do believe very strongly that discussion is very healthy ....
If the birthers haven't found anything substantial in the past 6-7 years proving Obama was born in Kenya or isn't an American citizen (Spoiler: He is and was legally elected into office), then they never will. It's amusing seeing them froth at the mouth now trying to get something to stick.
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