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Old 11-18-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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You should move to Israel. You're a traitor in my book. Go live in that sick society that brutalizes Arab peasants.

Keep my country out of your bigoted, vile, brutal desires for Israel to murder, and steal land.
Arabs brutalize Arab peasants.

Arabs steal lands -- look how the Arabs are in Africa slaughtering innocent people there. Arabs stole Hindu land and created that hell-hole Islamic Pakistan.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:44 PM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Arabs brutalize Arab peasants.

Arabs steal lands -- look how the Arabs are in Africa slaughtering innocent people there. Arabs stole Hindu land and created that hell-hole Islamic Pakistan.
Hindu Pakistan? You mean the 1.5% of the people of Pakistan?
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:44 PM
 
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Arabs stole Hindu land and created that hell-hole Islamic Pakistan.
Arabs didn't create Pakistan. The Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtun, and other groups aren't Arab.

You do know that not all Muslims are Arabs(and not even all Arabs are Muslims)...

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Old 11-18-2012, 02:47 PM
 
Location: NYC
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its truly extrordinary how when it comes to this issue , all political sides come together as one to profess their deep devotion to the state of israel , pledging undieing devotion to israel appears to be a rite of passage for every american politican or public personality of any kind

my question is this , is their any quater in the usa where an alternative view towards this global issue exists
yes there is, but its mostly restricted to the pseudo-intellectual bleeding heart liberals who think they understand what's going on but actually don't understand anything at all.

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do american realise how at odds they are with the rest of the world when it comes to this matter
If by "rest of the world" you mean enlightened places like Iran, Egypt, Tunis, Syria and France, then yes we do. However we seem to be more or less on the same page with Canada, Australia, UK, Holland, etc. I would rather be on the second team.
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Old 11-18-2012, 02:57 PM
 
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yes there is, but its mostly restricted to the pseudo-intellectual bleeding heart liberals who think they understand what's going on but actually don't understand anything at all.



If by "rest of the world" you mean enlightened places like Iran, Egypt, Tunis, Syria and France, then yes we do. However we seem to be more or less on the same page with Canada, Australia, UK, Holland, etc. I would rather be on the second team.
you think the majority of people in the uk sympathise more with israel when it comes to this issue , you havent a clue
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:02 PM
 
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thats speculation
No it is not speculation. The Hamas wants the destruction of Israel. When Israel was at the pre-1967 borders, Israel's neighbors planned to attack Israel bent on Israel's erasure. So Israel pre-empted and attacked first in 1967.

Nothing has changed with regards to the extremist Arab terror groups such as Hamas.They don't want to share the area with Israel and are still bent on Israel's destruction.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: NYC
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you think the majority of people in the uk sympathise more with israel when it comes to this issue , you havent a clue
I don't know, I haven't done a poll. But I do know that the democratically elected government of the UK has spoken out firmly in support of Israel.
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:12 PM
 
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I don't know, I haven't done a poll. But I do know that the democratically elected government of the UK has spoken out firmly in support of Israel.
the democratically elected goverment of the uk sent british troops into iraq in 2003 , do you think the majority of british citizens supported that , that war has almost no support , tony blair destroyed his reputation as a result , americans might like blair , the brits despise him for the most part

i can assure you , sympathy among the general british public rests with the pallestinians , in ireland its even more pronounced towards the pallestinian side
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Default Christian Zionism

Check out the John Hagee Ministries. He formed Christians United for Israel, the largest pro Israel group in the U.S. He's made 22 trips to Israel over the years and is very connected to Republicans. His organization has gone to Congress professing bibical justification for the defense of Israel.

Hagee had regular access to the Bush whitehouse. RNC Chairs give keynote addresses at regional conferences. And Israel Prime Ministers reguarily check in.

Hagee did however pull back funding of Israel healthcare when Israel decided to fund abortions, but did not allow it to get in the way of the big picture.

A lot of people buy into End of Times prophecies- a belief that Armangeddon is just around the cornor and the true believers will be wisked away to heaven while the non-believers stay oin earth to rot.

The "Left Behind" books and media help spread these beliefs so much so that it is the default doctrine of most Southern Baptists. The mega churches are chock full of people awaiting the end of the world.

Armageddon assumes the final battle between armies, increasingly perceived as Arabs and Russians vs. God's chosen people, Israel. There are about 16 million Southern Baptists in about 48,000 churches in the U.S. Not all are Zionists.

The idea behind Christian Zionists is to align the U.S. with Israel to expedite the final showdown. They also believe in mass conversion of all Jews to Christianity after the final battle, before being wisked away to heaven. Those who don't will experience the mother of all Holocausts.

Baptist Press - Southern Baptist contingent in Congress grows - News with a Christian Perspective
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Old 11-18-2012, 03:21 PM
 
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I don't understand why anyone in America would want to support any of those countries or authorities or whatever that stands against Israel. Just take a look at Israel, it is a modern democratic country, etc. Israel is one of our best allies in all the world. Maybe our very best. Whatever.
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