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It's been in the news, just not major headline news.
And we had that month of BLS reports that showed 500,000 NEW part time jobs created.
So you have more employed but each one is working less hours. Business just reacted to the IRS ruling.
Even Walmart came out with changes based on the IRS ruling.
The government defining full time as 30 hours is a precedent.
Companies did what they had to in order to maintain their part time staffing...lower hours and hire on more.
Actually, Happy, I was being sarcastic. I believe we've had numerous threads about it right here on CD.
He pays his employees for their labor in the business. If he no longer runs the business, he longer requires their labor. That's it. There's no "punishment" involved.
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And Mr. Hobby Lobby still enjoys his millions (my guess is he lives in a REAL big house) while his employees are jobless.
He gets to say, "My morals are paramount!". Which is his right. He owns the business. He can shut it all down tomorrow if he wants to. But the result of his decision directly affect employees who will no longer have a paycheck coming in.
Here's the corker: He's anti-abortion. Yet if he closes his business his decision will affect THOUSANDS of living, breathing humans who will no longer have a paying job. Their families will no longer have the benefit of that paycheck coming in to do things like pay rent, buy food, pay for cold medicine.
Do you think that's Christian? He's basically choosing the un-born over the people who are already here. As is illustrated over and over again on this board the anti-abortion people hold that idea dear to their hearts. The "unborn"must be protected. The "already here": tough luck.
He can close it in 2 months if he issues WARN notices, but he'd be an idiot.
All his bank covenents would be violated; all HL's assets would be seized, and he'd have a real small house pretty soon.
He could have done one better.
Switch all employees but managers to part time, under 30 hours and drop insurance for all but full time workers. Let the part timers get Obamacare which would guarantee them their free contraceptive pills.
He could have done one better.
Switch all employees but managers to part time, under 30 hours and drop insurance for all but full time workers. Let the part timers get Obamacare which would guarantee them their free contraceptive pills.
The vast majority at HL have always been part-time.
The vast majority at HL have always been part-time.
part time under 40 hours. But the IRS defined full time as 30 hours now so those working 30-39 all become "full time workers" as of 1/1/2013 regardless of what any company says or they get their hours cut to 29 and remain part time.
part time under 40 hours. But the IRS defined full time as 30 hours now so those working 30-39 all become "full time workers" as of 1/1/2013 regardless of what any company says.
Ever been in a HL? There are not a ton of payroll hours to be had. They are open standard retail hours, just 6 days, with few employees per shift. In all liklihood, like most retail 20-24 hours is the norm, per week.
In most retail ops, with 13k employees, under 10% would be affected, by even a radical owner.
Ever been in a HL? There are not a ton of payroll hours to be had. They are open standard retail hours, just 6 days, with few employees per shift. In all liklihood, like most retail 20-24 hours is the norm, per week.
In most retail ops, with 13k employees, under 10% would be affected, by even a radical owner.
Yeah, I go there all the time. But I don't ask them their work hours.
Where are you getting your stats from that they only work 20-24 hours per week ?
National average is 28-35 before the IRS ruling came out.
Yeah, I go there all the time. But I don't ask them their work hours.
Where are you getting your stats from that they only work 20-24 hours per week ?
National average is 28-35 before the IRS ruling came out.
National average includes using 40 as the basis for exempt employees which raises the average, and in retail, the floor staff overwhelm the professionals at corp, so retails average is far lower than the national average-which is usually 33 or so.
Retailers for the most part define f/t at 30-32 hours anyway, and have for years. Wal Greens insures at 31 hour average at least the last decade, grocers most often at about 30 also for decades.
Except for WG and Wal Mart (which offers insurance to p/t who have worked cumulatively enough hours), most deliberately schedule employees part-time and have since the late 70s, when I worked for 7 months in retail. The 2 employers I worked at chose 32 and 30 hours, respectfully as the f/t minimum. 90% of staff were scheduled one shift shy of f/t, with 24-27 being dominant. As a teen on my parents' coverage, I just wanted some tuition money for college.
And Mr. Hobby Lobby still enjoys his millions (my guess is he lives in a REAL big house) while his employees are jobless.
He gets to say, "My morals are paramount!". Which is his right. He owns the business. He can shut it all down tomorrow if he wants to. But the result of his decision directly affect employees who will no longer have a paycheck coming in.
Here's the corker: He's anti-abortion. Yet if he closes his business his decision will affect THOUSANDS of living, breathing humans who will no longer have a paying job. Their families will no longer have the benefit of that paycheck coming in to do things like pay rent, buy food, pay for cold medicine.
Do you think that's Christian? He's basically choosing the un-born over the people who are already here. As is illustrated over and over again on this board the anti-abortion people hold that idea dear to their hearts. The "unborn"must be protected. The "already here": tough luck.
Good luck getting an response from the HL supporters on this point. They prove time and again that they'll fall on a sword over the principle of denying birth control coverage, but seemingly could care less about the health and welfare of employees.
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