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Old 11-20-2012, 05:38 PM
 
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About those Qassam Rockets the Hamas is firing

Qassam rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They seem rather crude, yet portable, fire and forget, and highly mobile. Seems like the Hamas missile corp can go anywhere, build it, launch, and then just skidaddle out of there even before the missile makes impact. And they would not really be leaving anything valuable behind to be destroyed or captured by the enemy.

With that said, what are the Israelis really trying to accomplish by surgically attacking the launch site? All they will do is hit the civilians.

I hope this is the right place to put this.
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Old 11-20-2012, 05:51 PM
 
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About those Qassam Rockets the Hamas is firing

Qassam rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They seem rather crude, yet portable, fire and forget, and highly mobile. Seems like the Hamas missile corp can go anywhere, build it, launch, and then just skidaddle out of there even before the missile makes impact. And they would not really be leaving anything valuable behind to be destroyed or captured by the enemy.

With that said, what are the Israelis really trying to accomplish by surgically attacking the launch site? All they will do is hit the civilians.

I hope this is the right place to put this.
They gave the Gaza to the Palestinians, and forcibly removed all of the Israelis, in the hopes of the promised peace. If someone was launching rockets in to your city, how would you go about stopping it?

They can either attempt to surgically remove the launch sites, or invade. Which one would kill more civilians? Israel will be blamed for defending themselves no matter what they do.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:02 PM
 
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Hamas is the governing body, but do they really have full support of the people for launching rockets this way. If they do, I imagine the civis would clear the heck out first knowing that spot is getting shelled.

I guess a ground assault would take more lives, but this hurling bombs back and forth is becoming a little ridiculous. The "launch site" is basically everywhere and anywhere at whatever give time Hamas feels like.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:10 PM
 
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About those Qassam Rockets the Hamas is firing

Qassam rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They seem rather crude, yet portable, fire and forget, and highly mobile. Seems like the Hamas missile corp can go anywhere, build it, launch, and then just skidaddle out of there even before the missile makes impact. And they would not really be leaving anything valuable behind to be destroyed or captured by the enemy.

With that said, what are the Israelis really trying to accomplish by surgically attacking the launch site? All they will do is hit the civilians.

I hope this is the right place to put this.
You are confusing things. Some rockets as you described are indeed portable, but the longer range missiles (that reach Tel-Aviv) need launchers. These are big behemoths sent by Iran and its a miracle how Hamas could smuggle them into Gaza trough tunnels. Israel bombed and destroyed several large cashes of these. With the Qassam Israel aims to kill the crew that fires the missile. Drones identify the exit jet and instantly aim a 500 pound bomb to that spot. It works in many cases. Sometimes they watch the Hamas people preparing to launch and hit them from a high altitude before they fire the Qassam.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:52 AM
 
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About those Qassam Rockets the Hamas is firing

Qassam rocket - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

They seem rather crude, yet portable, fire and forget, and highly mobile. Seems like the Hamas missile corp can go anywhere, build it, launch, and then just skidaddle out of there even before the missile makes impact. And they would not really be leaving anything valuable behind to be destroyed or captured by the enemy.

With that said, what are the Israelis really trying to accomplish by surgically attacking the launch site? All they will do is hit the civilians.

I hope this is the right place to put this.

Hamas has stepped up to Iranian made fajr-3 and fajr-5 rockets. These are the rockets making the longer distances. They are too heavy to just setup and run. They require fixed launching sites. Hamas has setup all these in urban locations. Once these launch, Israel fires back at these sites to destroy the launch pads. Qassams are meant to terrorize people by causing damage. Their load is more like a pipe bomb fill with misc items than an expolsive device The issue is not the one qassam. its the 20+ Hamas sends to the same location. Hamas does not care about its civilian population as all the launch sites are amongst them. The Palestinian people in Gaza can do nothing. They have no shelters and they have no weapons for them to ever try to rise up against Hamas. Hamas won't even allow a vote to occur. And BTW what do you think Hamas is shooting at? Civilians. They haven't fired a rocket towards military sites at all. So what else would you call Hamas, other than terrorists, for firing only at civilian targets?
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Old 11-21-2012, 04:58 AM
 
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Hamas is the governing body, but do they really have full support of the people for launching rockets this way. If they do, I imagine the civis would clear the heck out first knowing that spot is getting shelled.

I guess a ground assault would take more lives, but this hurling bombs back and forth is becoming a little ridiculous. The "launch site" is basically everywhere and anywhere at whatever give time Hamas feels like.
Who cares if the rocket launchings have popular support? All Israel is concerned about is stopping them. If missiles were ring fired into Maine from Canada do you think the US would care if that action was popular? We would respond by flattening the launch sites, and we'd be fully within our rights.

Besides, long range rockets are not very mobile.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:17 AM
 
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Analysis of Hamas Military Capability After Six-Day Conflict With Israel - SPIEGEL ONLINE

It seems like they will continue to have the capacity to launch these rockets as long as Egypt allows their continued import into Gaza.
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Old 11-21-2012, 08:40 AM
 
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Hamas has stepped up to Iranian made fajr-3 and fajr-5 rockets. These are the rockets making the longer distances. They are too heavy to just setup and run. They require fixed launching sites. Hamas has setup all these in urban locations. Once these launch, Israel fires back at these sites to destroy the launch pads. Qassams are meant to terrorize people by causing damage. Their load is more like a pipe bomb fill with misc items than an expolsive device The issue is not the one qassam. its the 20+ Hamas sends to the same location. Hamas does not care about its civilian population as all the launch sites are amongst them. The Palestinian people in Gaza can do nothing. They have no shelters and they have no weapons for them to ever try to rise up against Hamas. Hamas won't even allow a vote to occur. And BTW what do you think Hamas is shooting at? Civilians. They haven't fired a rocket towards military sites at all. So what else would you call Hamas, other than terrorists, for firing only at civilian targets?
How do you know this stuff? Looks like Hamas has no where else to put them. Out in plain site would be totally stupid.

"Hamas does not care about its civilian population as all the launch sites are amongst them.
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Old 11-21-2012, 09:06 AM
 
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How do you know this stuff? Looks like Hamas has no where else to put them. Out in plain site would be totally stupid.

"Hamas does not care about its civilian population as all the launch sites are amongst them.
Perhaps they could put them in the Hamas HQ for example!
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Old 11-21-2012, 03:40 PM
 
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Does the Gaza have a beachfront? Perhaps Hamas could go out at night when everyone has left the beach, and set up on the sand. That way no harm will be done when the retaliation hits.
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