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Old 11-21-2012, 11:27 AM
 
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Why not send them to treatment facilities which will probably cost less over the long run than locking them up for doing something to their own body?

The war on drugs continues to be a lopsided failure in favor of the bad guys. Decriminalize, legalize, and tax drugs in order to take all the money away from human rights violators.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Because they didn't pay any taxes on them.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Not everyone arrested with drugs is a user.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:30 AM
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Taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay for incarceration or treatment, only the individual is responsible for their habits.

The real reason we do it is to enable the gangs,the law enforcement community and the legal system with tax dollars to fuel their growth.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:31 AM
 
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Why not send them to treatment facilities which will probably cost less over the long run than locking them up for doing something to their own body?

The war on drugs continues to be a lopsided failure in favor of the bad guys. Decriminalize, legalize, and tax drugs in order to take all the money away from human rights violators.
No one is stopping them from going to rehab -- but if they have so much money that they can spend their money on drugs, why should taxpayers have to provide them free rehab?
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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Why not send them to treatment facilities which will probably cost less over the long run than locking them up for doing something to their own body?

The war on drugs continues to be a lopsided failure in favor of the bad guys. Decriminalize, legalize, and tax drugs in order to take all the money away from human rights violators.
Drugs and addiction will still make them horrendous parents -- here they don't do anything about the drug users or drug dealers -- until they let their little infant smother --- after all -- drugs come ahead of their own children. Rather than put them up in lavish country club type rehabs -- how about sterilizing them?

El Paso parents charged in baby's death | www.kfoxtv.com


A 2-month-old El Paso baby died after being strapped into his car seat and left unattended in a bedroom, according to police. The infant's parents were arrested in connection to his death.

Police investigators determined that 21-year-old Lindsey Hradek and 27-year-
old Bobby Soto had used cocaine before Colton died and disregarded warning labels on the car seat. The labels warned of leaving the car seat on unstable surfaces and leaving a child unattended.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Houston
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What we should ask is why if it took an amendment to enact alcohol prohibition it did not to do the same with marijuane, cocaine, heroin, etc.
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Old 11-21-2012, 11:41 AM
 
Location: A great city, by a Great Lake!
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Taxpayers shouldn't be forced to pay for incarceration or treatment, only the individual is responsible for their habits.

The real reason we do it is to enable the gangs,the law enforcement community and the legal system with tax dollars to fuel their growth.

This! Our government loves to play both sides of the drug war! If the US government truly wanted to end the drug war, then why don't they simply have the military walk into those Latin American countries, and wipe out the cartels? They certainly have the means to do it. We have no problem in meddling in the Middle East's affairs! But....oh wait, then those that are employed by this silly drug war would have to actually spend their time actually going after REAL criminals!
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada
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why can people not smoke pot but go get a Rx for 60MG 80MG Oxycontin or Percocet with 2-3 Refills it is super addctive has killed alot of people and kids Parents, Rich and Poor people are hooked on them and and is a real epeidenic going on yet a bit of pot gets 5 years in prison.

The International Narcotics Control Board estimates that 11.5 tons (23,000 lbs) of oxycodone were manufactured worldwide in 1998;[ by 2007 this figure had grown to 75.2 tons (150,400 lbs). Of all countries, the United States had the highest total consumption of oxycodone in 2007 at 51.6 tons (103,200 lbs) or 82% of the world total.

Critics have accused Purdue Pharma of putting profits ahead of public interest by applying "significant political pressure" to attempt to reverse South Carolina's requiring prior approval before a person with Medicaid can receive the drug;for "fail[ing] to adequately warn consumers of the risks" of OxyContin such as dependence;and for promoting the drug "aggressively" and by means such as "promotional beach hats, pedometers and swing-music CDs".

In May 2007 Purdue Pharma "agreed to pay $19.5 million" in fines relating to aggressive off-label marketing practices of OxyContin in 26 states and the District of Columbia.
In specific, the company encouraged dosing more frequent than the recommended interval of 12 hours, and did not fully disclose the risk of hazardous or harmful use.

Later in May 2007 Purdue Pharma and three of its top executives pled guilty in a Virginia federal court to charges that they misbranded OxyContin by representing it to have "less euphoric effect and less abuse potential" than it actually has, and by claiming that people taking the drug at low doses could stop taking it suddenly without symptoms of withdrawal.

The FDA had not approved these claims. The company and the executives were to pay $634 million in fines for felony and misdemeanor misbranding

This translates into over half a billion 80 mg tablets per year In addition, the U.S. had the highest per capita consumption of oxycodone, followed by Canada in 2006, 2007 and 2008.

Although the addictive properties of OxyContin are no more than other opioids, the health risks are heightened through its aggressive marketing practices.

Advertisements in professional publications and medical journals have been consistent, touting the drug “as a safer alternative to even Aspirin and Tylenol and good for anyone who needed pain relief for ‘several days’ or more.”

Advertisements in Monthly Prescribing Reference reiterate these claims by emphasizing OxyContin’s flexibility in regards to its dosage strength.

This makes the consumption of oxycodone in North America (United States and Canada alone) higher than all other countries of the world combined. The United States and Canada are consistently ranked among the top two or three in most type of opioid consumption per capita (for example, in 2006 Canada ranked second and the U.S. ranked third in morphine consumption per capita.

Us Americans and Canadians got a tons of those free trial samples and fresome beach hats from prudue and they say was as safe as a taking a OTC advil or OTC tylennol and pushed for people to take higher doses at shorter intervals and pas out listening to free swing-music CD's.
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Old 11-21-2012, 02:49 PM
 
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No one is stopping them from going to rehab -- but if they have so much money that they can spend their money on drugs, why should taxpayers have to provide them free rehab?
If I'm now forced by government to buy health care insurance for myself, then force them to pay for their own rehab.
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