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I don't believe the word "fetus" is mentioned anywhere in the Constitution. If you're "not willing to do the job" of raising a child you've given birth to, then put the child up for adoption. Any fool knows there are thousands of couples willing to cover the medical and many other expenses for women who will give their baby up for adoption. Only the selfish, self-absorbed, instant gratification isn't fast enough variety are the ones who will opt for abortion.
Funny how a few posts up you decry the lack of attention given to "responsible men", then state in this post that it's a woman's job to raise the child she's given birth to.
Abortions are too expensive with people out of work. They don't have the money to pay up front so they have the baby.
If the government stopped offering high tax credits to people having babies they can't afford, people with think twice about having kids. That is another way of redistributing the wealth.
Stop lecturing women about not having sex. You are nobody in their lives. The man that they are married to, or dating, he's somebody in their lives. He's somebody they want to please. He's somebody who's going to want to have sex, who's going to try to persuade the woman to have sex, who's going to demand sex or end the relationship. All of you who insist that women shouldn't be having sex are wilfully being blind to reality. Women in their late teens and through their twenties are looking for the love of their lives, for the man they want to spend the rest of their lives with. They are not going to refuse to have sex with men, because men aren't going to put up with a sexless relationship.
Excellent post! I snipped the middle part b/c I think this part goes to the heart of it. Men are being disingenuous when they advise women to "keep their legs closed" and other crude admonishments not to have sex
Yep. Exactly. Extremely foolish to pretend otherwise.
You will note the poster you quoted also referred to married women. Single women aren't the only ones who get abortions. And no, I don't think a man would marry a woman who would refuse sex after marriage as a means of birth control.
Who said anything about married women refusing to have sex? The writer implied that there are no men willing to marry women who do not have sex BEFORE marriage as they might end up in a sexless relationship. That's like saying I won't have children before I have an abortion first so I'll know what it feels like to be pregnant!
Funny how a few posts up you decry the lack of attention given to "responsible men", then state in this post that it's a woman's job to raise the child she's given birth to.
Nice try to read something into my statement that wasn't there. As long as the father is on the birth certificate, then OBVIOUSLY there should be shared responsibility.
Yep. Exactly. Extremely foolish to pretend otherwise.
And why is that? Because all men are controlled by their dicks and have absolutely no brains, sense of decency or respect for women anymore? Because if a guy forces himself on a woman, that is called rape.
You probably do know someone who was on birth control pills who got pregnant. It's not necessarily something that they would share with you.
I know someone who had a tubal ligation, and got pregnant. I know two people who got pregnant though their husbands had had vasectomies. And their husbands were the fathers.
The majority of women who have abortions already have children. Women know what sex can lead to, women aren't lazy or irresponsible or stupid. Unprotected sex happens. And contraceptives fail. And abortion is safer and less risky and less costly and less intrusive than a full-term pregnancy and childbirth.
If you are opposed to abortion, then instead of blaming women for making the choice, you would be better served by trying to understand WHY women choose abortion, and addressing the reasons why abortion is chosen. The fact that you can think of worse "punishments" than nine months of pregnancy is, actually, part of the problem. First of all, there are hardly any worse "punishments" than nine months of an unwanted pregnancy, of being bloated and nauseous, of having to buy an entire new wardrobe, of not being able to sleep because you can't get comfortable, of constantly running to the bathroom, of backaches and aching feet that you can no longer touch, of feeling exhausted, of invasive doctor's appointments, the risk of diabetes, heart problems, high blood pressure and strokes. Women can and do die from pregnancy. More than that, women can and do lose their jobs because of unplanned pregnancies. Yes, there are laws to protect women from that, but a determined employer can find ways around the laws. Moreover, the fact that women get pregnant and end up being the primary caregivers is one of the fundamental reasons women get paid less in the marketplace. And the sorry fact is that the pay discrepancy is there whether a woman is a mother or not.
Pregnancy isn't cheap. And the women most likely to get pregnant, young women, are the least likely to have the means to pay the costs of pregnancy. Just starting out in their careers, often at minimum wage or barely above it, least likely to have insurance, often in relationships that are less stable than they think, which they learn when they announce they are pregnant. The costs for good pre-natal care are not innocuous. The costs for women's clothing tends to be significantly higher than for men, and maternity clothes are not an exception. The missed days at work are a significant cost both to the woman and to her employer. But they tend to be unavoidable. And after the baby is born, there is a reason so many women end up on welfare. Because they cannot afford to work and put their child in childcare. If you're making $10/hr, pretty common for a 21-year old woman, $400/week gross, $360/week net, childcare costs $120/week, diapers, baby food/formula, clothes that are grown out of after just a month, baby vaccinations, toys, playpen, carseats, strollers, just the cost of laundry, there is no way to make it work financially. And since women who choose abortions usually already have children, they KNOW just how expensive it is, and they KNOW how another child will negatively affect the children they already have.
Stop lecturing women about not having sex. You are nobody in their lives. The man that they are married to, or dating, he's somebody in their lives. He's somebody they want to please. He's somebody who's going to want to have sex, who's going to try to persuade the woman to have sex, who's going to demand sex or end the relationship. All of you who insist that women shouldn't be having sex are wilfully being blind to reality. Women in their late teens and through their twenties are looking for the love of their lives, for the man they want to spend the rest of their lives with. They are not going to refuse to have sex with men, because men aren't going to put up with a sexless relationship.
So instead of arguing against sex, use your resources to make pregnancy and raising a child more affordable, and less risky.
Great post as usual!!!
And it's funny how the truly ignorant Anti-Choicerswill ignore all that common sense ....are they so blinded by their hate and lust for power????
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