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Old 11-26-2012, 06:23 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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The Jewish, were the bankers and the majority of business owners. The Germans were the labor, which socialized. The military heads got rich.
That isn't true at all. You are just repeating what the Nazis were preaching in order to demonize the Jews.

While there were the Rothchilds, which was a banking family, Jews nether were the predominant bankers nor the majority of business owners. Jews got into money-lending centuries ago when the Vatican declared that charging interest was immoral, under the theory that money shouldn't beget more money.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:27 AM
 
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That isn't true at all. You are just repeating what the Nazis were preaching in order to demonize the Jews.

While there were the Rothchilds, which was a banking family, Jews nether were the predominant bankers nor the majority of business owners. Jews got into money-lending centuries ago when the Vatican declared that charging interest was immoral, under the theory that money shouldn't beget more money.

Gee- That is about the only thing I have agreed with you about.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:42 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Gee- That is about the only thing I have agreed with you about.
You can't be wrong all the time.
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Old 11-26-2012, 06:54 AM
 
Location: North America
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They eventually took it by force. Prison camps arose from it.

You know what that led to...
Genocide.


Yes, Germany went after the wealth in the nation, to use for themselves and remove power from very rich people in the communities.

Oh, boy, here we go with the lame-assed Nazi/Obama parallel.

You under the mistaken notion that the Jews held all the wealth in Germany? Or maybe the Gypsies or the mentally disabled had the big bucks?

Why don't you go to the library and actually read up on the rise of Nazism in Germany.

And on a side note, those poor put-upon rich folks in this country....one has to feel a special sympathy for them. It's in the dictionary, between sh** and syphilis.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:26 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Historians have uncovered evidence leading to the estimation that the Nazis' wartime confiscation of wealth from Europe's Jews financed about 30 percent of the expenditure of the German armed forces during WWII.
The official study of the German Finance Ministry under the Nazis from 1933 to 1945 was conducted by historian Hans-Peter Ullmann.
Last month a similar study of the German Foreign Ministry under the Nazis established that its diplomats and bureaucrats played a key role in the Holocaust.
Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the German Finance Ministry under the Nazis actively worked to "destroy Jews financially" and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.
Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an "exit tax." Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.
The ministry raised money for the war effort through taxes, borrowing and "outright theft," Ullmann said.
The research began last year with a request to report back after three or four years.



'Jewish assets seized by Nazis



Europe's Jews were robbed of so much wealth by the Nazis that they financed 30 per cent of the German war effort, say researchers.

Nazi officials plundered 120billion reichsmarks – more than £12billion – by looting and through confiscation laws.

The figure has come to light in a study by the German finance ministry to uncover its crimes while the Nazis were in power, from 1933 until 1945.

Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne University history professor who is heading the three-year investigation, said that under the Nazis the tax authorities ‘actively worked to destroy Jews financially’.

Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934, while some who managed to leave Germany before the Holocaust had much of their wealth confiscated through an ‘exit tax’.

Nazi officials seized and sold the property of Jews who left or were sent to extermination camps, both in Germany and in the nations conquered during the Second World War.


Nazis paid for 30% of war with stolen Jewish cash
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:43 AM
 
Location: North America
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Historians have uncovered evidence leading to the estimation that the Nazis' wartime confiscation of wealth from Europe's Jews financed about 30 percent of the expenditure of the German armed forces during WWII.
The official study of the German Finance Ministry under the Nazis from 1933 to 1945 was conducted by historian Hans-Peter Ullmann.
Last month a similar study of the German Foreign Ministry under the Nazis established that its diplomats and bureaucrats played a key role in the Holocaust.
Ullmann, a Cologne history professor, said the German Finance Ministry under the Nazis actively worked to "destroy Jews financially" and to loot wealth in the nations the Germans occupied.
Even Jews who managed to escape from Germany before the Holocaust had to leave part of their wealth behind in the form of an "exit tax." Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934 onwards.
The ministry raised money for the war effort through taxes, borrowing and "outright theft," Ullmann said.
The research began last year with a request to report back after three or four years.



'Jewish assets seized by Nazis



Europe's Jews were robbed of so much wealth by the Nazis that they financed 30 per cent of the German war effort, say researchers.

Nazi officials plundered 120billion reichsmarks – more than £12billion – by looting and through confiscation laws.

The figure has come to light in a study by the German finance ministry to uncover its crimes while the Nazis were in power, from 1933 until 1945.

Hans-Peter Ullmann, a Cologne University history professor who is heading the three-year investigation, said that under the Nazis the tax authorities ‘actively worked to destroy Jews financially’.

Tax laws discriminated against Jews from 1934, while some who managed to leave Germany before the Holocaust had much of their wealth confiscated through an ‘exit tax’.

Nazi officials seized and sold the property of Jews who left or were sent to extermination camps, both in Germany and in the nations conquered during the Second World War.


Nazis paid for 30% of war with stolen Jewish cash

It does NOT parallel the US taxing the rich. Again, read a book.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Littleton, CO
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Historians have uncovered evidence leading to the estimation that the Nazis' wartime confiscation of wealth from Europe's Jews financed about 30 percent of the expenditure of the German armed forces during WWII.
Which has nothing to do with whether or not those Jews were rich.
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Old 11-26-2012, 07:49 AM
 
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Hyperbole much?

The rich are enjoying historically low income tax rates, tremendous income and wealth gains and a roaring stock market.



But I guess it's only officially class warfare when the not-rich decide to fight back.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:14 AM
 
Location: World
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First of all, Nazi Party and Hitler was ANTI-COMMUNIST. During the Great Depression, People started to lean towards either Communist Party in Germany or Far-Right Nazi Party. Rich people and Industrialists are always against workers, Unions, communists so they supported Nazi party.
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Old 11-26-2012, 08:17 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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They eventually took it by force. Prison camps arose from it.

You know what that led to...
Genocide.


Yes, Germany went after the wealth in the nation, to use for themselves and remove power from very rich people in the communities.
You're understanding of Germany circa 1930s is woefully inaccurate. If anything Hitler rose to power because he was seen as someone who could fight encroaching communism in Germany. Many Germans saw what socialism and Stalin was doing to the Ukranians and wanted someone to stop the growing power of German communists and assorted Leftists.
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