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Old 11-22-2012, 06:35 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Still waiting for the Obama speech transcripts...did you have to go all the way back to 1985 before you could find a president mentioning god on thanksgiving?
Here's a link to Obama's Thanksgiving address this year. Around 3:01 he mentions God. It's a good speech even if the Breitbart website thinks it's blasphemy because he doesn't specifically thank God at the end.

Your Weekly Address | The White House
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:40 PM
 
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This is stirring a lot of heat. What Obama should be doing is inserting 'Thanking God' back in the Thanksgiving Address. To do so would be respecting the founders traditions and heritage.President Washington thanked God in 1789. President Washington and all of the other Founders did everything they could to secure the blessings of God for our country. What Obama has done is shear blasphemy
No, it is the action of a president in touch with the diversity of American citizens. We no longer live in the homogeneous society that our Founding Fathers did. Wake up and get present. He is acting in accordance with a larger scope than you seem to be.
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:46 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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This is stirring a lot of heat. What Obama should be doing is inserting 'Thanking God' back in the Thanksgiving Address. To do so would be respecting the founders traditions and heritage.President Washington thanked God in 1789. President Washington and all of the other Founders did everything they could to secure the blessings of God for our country. What Obama has done is shear blasphemy: For Fourth Straight Year, Obama's Thanksgiving Message Doesn't Thank God

Not surprising......

But God must live in one's heart in order for one to thank him.

As for athiests, who cares?
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:49 PM
 
Location: USA - midwest
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Default jt800, is that you?

I wonder which right wing troll this "Mr Wipe" was prior to Nov 6th...
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Old 11-22-2012, 06:53 PM
 
Location: S.E. US
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No, it is the action of a president in touch with the diversity of American citizens. We no longer live in the homogeneous society that our Founding Fathers did. Wake up and get present. He is acting in accordance with a larger scope than you seem to be.
He should know by now that one can't please everyone; therefore, he should take a stand and let us all know where he stands.

Abe Lincoln said we should thank God, why shouldn't all Presidents? He mentions God, praise, thanksgiving and prayer, and the Holy Spirit in his proclamation establishing a national day of Thanksgiving:

It has pleased Almighty God to hearken to the supplications and prayers of an afflicted people and to vouchsafe to the Army and the Navy of the United States victories on land and on the sea so signal and so effective as to furnish reasonable grounds for augmented confidence that the Union of these States will be maintained, their Constitution preserved, and their peace and prosperity permanently restored. But these victories have been accorded not without sacrifices of life, limb, health, and liberty, incurred by brave, loyal, and patriotic citizens. Domestic affliction in every part of the country follows in the train of these fearful bereavements. It is meet and right to recognize and confess the presence of the Almighty Father and the power of His hand equally in these triumphs and in these sorrows:

Now, therefore, be it known that I do set apart Thursday, the 6th day of August next, to be observed as a day for national thanksgiving, praise, and prayer, and I invite the people of the United States to assemble on that occasion in their customary places of worship and in the forms approved by their own consciences render the homage due to the Divine Majesty for the wonderful things He has done in the nation's behalf and invoke the influence of His Holy Spirit to subdue the anger which has produced and so long sustained a needless and cruel rebellion, to change the hearts of the insurgents, to guide the counsels of the Government with wisdom adequate to so great a national emergency, and to visit with tender care and consolation throughout the length and breadth of our land all those who, through the vicissitudes of marches, voyages, battles, and sieges, have been brought to suffer in mind, body, or estate, and finally to lead the whole nation through the paths of repentance and submission to the divine will back to the perfect enjoyment of union and fraternal peace. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the city of Washington, this 15th day of July, A. D. 1863, and of the Independence of the United States of America the eighty-eighth.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

By the President:

WILLIAM H. SEWARD, Secretary of State .
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:06 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Abe Lincoln said we should thank God, why shouldn't all Presidents?
Because God doesn't exist, for starters. And if He does, He doesn't really need the U.S. President to cheerlead for Him.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:18 PM
 
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He should know by now that one can't please everyone; therefore, he should take a stand and let us all know where he stands.

Abe Lincoln said we should thank God, why shouldn't all Presidents? He mentions God, praise, thanksgiving and prayer, and the Holy Spirit in his proclamation establishing a national day of Thanksgiving:

It has pleased Almighty God to hearken to the supplications and prayers of an afflicted people and to vouchsafe to the Army and the Navy of the United States victories on land and on the sea so signal and so effective as to furnish reasonable grounds for augmented confidence that the Union of these States will be maintained, their Constitution preserved, and their peace and prosperity permanently restored. But these victories have been accorded not without sacrifices of life, limb, health, and liberty, incurred by brave, loyal, and patriotic citizens. Domestic affliction in every part of the country follows in the train of these fearful bereavements. It is meet and right to recognize and confess the presence of the Almighty Father and the power of His hand equally in these triumphs and in these sorrows:

Now, therefore, be it known that I do set apart Thursday, the 6th day of August next, to be observed as a day for national thanksgiving, praise, and prayer, and I invite the people of the United States to assemble on that occasion in their customary places of worship and in the forms approved by their own consciences render the homage due to the Divine Majesty for the wonderful things He has done in the nation's behalf and invoke the influence of His Holy Spirit to subdue the anger which has produced and so long sustained a needless and cruel rebellion, to change the hearts of the insurgents, to guide the counsels of the Government with wisdom adequate to so great a national emergency, and to visit with tender care and consolation throughout the length and breadth of our land all those who, through the vicissitudes of marches, voyages, battles, and sieges, have been brought to suffer in mind, body, or estate, and finally to lead the whole nation through the paths of repentance and submission to the divine will back to the perfect enjoyment of union and fraternal peace. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.

Done at the city of Washington, this 15th day of July, A. D. 1863, and of the Independence of the United States of America the eighty-eighth.

ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

By the President:

WILLIAM H. SEWARD, Secretary of State .
Here is what George Washington said:................Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness"...... Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789........................ George Washington
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:22 PM
 
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Here is what George Washington said:................Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor; and Whereas both Houses of Congress have, by their joint committee, requested me to recommend to the people of the United States a day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many and signal favors of Almighty God, especially by affording them an opportunity peaceably to establish a form of government for their safety and happiness"...... Given under my hand, at the city of New York, the 3d day of October, A.D. 1789........................ George Washington
Yes the date was changed, but I didn't know there was a new proclamation. This is even better. Thank you (rep was blocked) ... next time.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Cupertino, CA
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Maybe you can use your imagination and pretend he did thank god. Just like how you imagine the notion of a god.
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Old 11-22-2012, 07:26 PM
 
Location: Metro Phoenix
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