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Old 11-23-2012, 09:27 PM
 
Location: Southcentral Kansas
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Merchants haven't figured out a way to really capitalize on Easter--yet. If they ever did, you would would suddenly see it become a big holiday. Really, there is very little that is religious about Christmas in this country any longer. It's become a consumer holiday, created by retailers, many of whom derive close to 40% of their annual revenue on holiday sales alone.

Which is why the annual whining by the right that liberals are trying to kill Christmas always strikes me as funny. They should be railing at corporate America--they are the ones who took the "Christ" out of Christmas a long time ago, for the benefit of their bottom line. Liberals and atheists and whoever else the fundamentalists traditionally blame could never have done half so good a job at killing the true meaning of Christmas as those corporations have done chasing the almighty buck. All one has to do is watch people trampling each other on Black Friday every year to scoop up as much crap as possible to see how successful they've been at turning Christmas into a secular holiday.
I keep wondering why people who want to kill Chistianity keep on with the crap about commercialism. Many of us don't get nearly as much out of the giving of gifts as you people do. When we celebrate Christmas at our house it has to do with family being together and celebrating the birth of a baby. Now we see Easter as a time of celebrating the return of the man that baby became and that is an important thing, also. How many other "men" can you of the non-belief group point out who arose from the dead and showed himself to his believers? Not many, huh.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:31 PM
 
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I keep wondering why people who want to kill Chistianity keep on with the crap about commercialism. Many of us don't get nearly as much out of the giving of gifts as you people do. When we celebrate Christmas at our house it has to do with family being together and celebrating the birth of a baby. Now we see Easter as a time of celebrating the return of the man that baby became and that is an important thing, also. How many other "men" can you of the non-belief group point out who arose from the dead and showed himself to his believers? Not many, huh.
No, I don't make up fairy tales to please myself.
So you contend that ALL those greedy grasping people we see on TV herding themselves into stores on Grey Thursday and Black Friday are all non-christians???


You are wrong.
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:32 PM
 
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The Pope's an atheist?! Who knew!!
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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Default Can't make up their MINDS!!!!

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I never really thought about Charlie Brown being Atheists.....but

Then we have this..............
Arkansas: Atheists now offended by


Charlie Brown’s Christmas is on the outs at an elementary school in Little Rock, Ark. — at least among atheists who are calling foul over a planned student trip to see a stage production of the beloved Peanuts story.

The trouble began when students at Terry Elementary School brought home letters detailing the trip to see “A Charlie Brown Christmas” at a local church, according to a report from Arkansas’ KARK.
An Atheist parent who had a problem with the play’s content notified the local atheist group of the field trip.

“We’re not saying anything bad about Charlie Brown,” Anne Orsi, vice president of the Arkansas Society of Freethinkers, told KARK. “The problem is that it’s got religious content and it’s being performed in a religious venue and that doesn’t just blur the line between church and state, it oversteps it entirely.”
When informed no student is being forced to attend and all parents were notified about the field trip the Atheist who complained responded "That doesn't matter"
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Old 11-23-2012, 09:59 PM
 
Location: New York metropolitan area
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This is another Anti-Christian thread...
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:02 PM
 
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How?
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This is another Anti-Christian thread...
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How?
I would like to know as well..
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:14 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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So says Pope Benedict. For example,

"There is no mention of animals in the Gospels," he wrote in the third and last volume of his biography of Jesus Christ . . . The inclusion of domestic animals in the Nativity scene may have been inspired by pre-Christian traditions, for instance in the Book of Habakkuk, a part of the Hebrew Bible which was probably written by an early prophet in the seventh century BC, Benedict wrote."
Nativity donkeys and cattle are a myth, says Pope - Telegraph

And the angels didn't even sing.

So much for the Christian holiday. Merry Consumerism Christmas, everyone!
For God's sake (pun intended)! Who or what do you think eats in a manger? Who lives in the barn?

As for the angels:
Luke 2:13 Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,

Whether you believe the Bible story or not, that is what it is!
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:19 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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As an outside observer (Jewish), if I knew nothing of western culture and read the new testament I would assume Easter would be more significant than Christmas. That's just me though.
Actually, that is what I was taught, all those years ago in confirmation classes. The pop culture celebration of Christmas has nothing to do with its importance to Christianity.
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Old 11-24-2012, 04:11 AM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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There was only one commandment from Christ that would indicate a holy day of worship and it had nothing to do with his birth!

It was/is: The Lord’s Evening Meal

Jesus instituted the Lord’s Evening Meal and was killed on the day of Passover, which was observed “as a memorial” of Israel’s deliverance from Egyptian bondage in 1513 B.C.E. (Exodus 12:14) The Passover was held only once a year, on the 14th day of the Jewish month Nisan. (Exodus 12:1-6; Leviticus 23:5) This indicates that Jesus’ death should be commemorated only as often as the Passover, which is observed annually.

The Gospel writer Luke confirms that Jesus commanded: “Keep doing this in remembrance of me.” (Luke 22:19) These words have also been rendered: “Do this in memory of me” (Today’s English Version) and “Do this as a memorial of me.” (The Jerusalem Bible)

This observance is often referred to as the Memorial of Christ’s death.
Paul also calls it the Lord’s Evening Meal—an appropriate designation, since it was instituted at night.
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