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Old 11-25-2012, 06:17 AM
 
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Here's an idea....auction off pay scale.

When an employer advertises a job, simply have an auction!

Have potential employees bid on what wage they would work for.

This will be good for everyone.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:31 AM
 
Location: Central Maine
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pay: noun - something paid for a purpose and especially as a salary or wage. Synonyms: emolument, hire, packet [British], wage, paycheck, pay envelope, payment, salary, stipend.

wage
: noun - a payment usually of money for labor or services usually according to contract and on an hourly, daily, or piecework basis — often used in plural. Synonyms: emolument, hire, packet [British], pay, paycheck, pay envelope, payment, salary, stipend.

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Fair wage = fair pay. So yeah, people who favor fair wage also favor fair pay, since they are the same thing.
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Old 11-25-2012, 06:34 AM
 
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pay: noun - something paid for a purpose and especially as a salary or wage. Synonyms: emolument, hire, packet [British], wage, paycheck, pay envelope, payment, salary, stipend.

wage
: noun - a payment usually of money for labor or services usually according to contract and on an hourly, daily, or piecework basis — often used in plural. Synonyms: emolument, hire, packet [British], pay, paycheck, pay envelope, payment, salary, stipend.

Source: Dictionary and Thesaurus - Merriam-Webster Online

Fair wage = fair pay. So yeah, people who favor fair wage also favor fair pay, since they are the same thing.
The big question is this....who defines "fair wage"? Every single individual in America has a different idea of what THEIR "fair wage" should be.

It comes down to what the value of the labor is.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Va. Beach
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A fair wage is what the Employee and Employer agree upon.
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Old 11-25-2012, 07:32 AM
 
Location: The Triad
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A fair wage is what the Employee and Employer agree upon.
That sounds nice... doesn't it?

The employer will "offer" the amount that the market insists on.
The employee will "accept" what the market can bear.
The concept of "fair" has NOTHING to do with that.

The reasons for the dismal wage levels that so many have today are based in simple
economic realities of supply vs demand: Too many people (as a raw number) competing.
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Old 11-25-2012, 03:49 PM
 
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The auction idea doesn't work because it would return us to the Victorian era and the era of paid slavery. There is not end to how much avaricious employers will exploit workers. What would stop employers from colluding and fixing wages? Just because someone might be desperate enough to work for $1 / hr doesn't mean that a civilized society needs to allow it.

Government would be forced to pick up the tab for everything to allow people to survive. Rich people would have to be taxed to 90 % in order to support all the poor people.

The concept of a living wage is that if someone works very hard for 40 hours a week they should be able to support themselves and their family in something other than abject poverty.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:10 PM
 
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Here's an idea....auction off pay scale.

When an employer advertises a job, simply have an auction!

Have potential employees bid on what wage they would work for.

This will be good for everyone.

I think wages should be transparent for consumers to judge. Employers are free to pay minimum wage, but I think consumers should be able to know that.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:24 PM
 
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The big question is this....who defines "fair wage"? Every single individual in America has a different idea of what THEIR "fair wage" should be.

It comes down to what the value of the labor is.

If employee A is 25% more productive than employee B, can you tell us with a straight face that the value of A's labor is 20 cents more per hour than B's labor?
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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I think wages should be transparent for consumers to judge. Employers are free to pay minimum wage, but I think consumers should be able to know that.
How many people do you have working for you, what are their duties and pay?


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A fair wage is what the Employee and Employer agree upon.
Yes, its really this simple.
And the minimum wage should be abolished as it only contributes to unemployment.
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Old 11-25-2012, 04:27 PM
 
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A fair wage is what the Employee and Employer agree upon.

Only if the agreement is made without distress.
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