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View Poll Results: How long will it take Governor Jerry Brown to fix Arnie's mess?
1-2 years 3 13.64%
3-4 years 9 40.91%
4-5 years 0 0%
5+ years 10 45.45%
Voters: 22. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-27-2012, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Now conservatives are claiming JERRY BROWN is a RIGHT-WINGER!

hahahahaha!
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: the ass of nowhere (the midwest)
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Now conservatives are claiming JERRY BROWN is a RIGHT-WINGER!

hahahahaha!
OP, were you born in '83? If you were, you are awfully immature for your age.

Regardless, if you would like to grow up, you can start by educating yourself: http://usliberals.about.com/od/state...California.htm
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:18 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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OP, were you born in '83? If you were, you are awfully immature for your age.

Regardless, if you would like to grow up, you can start by educating yourself: Jerry Brown Profile - Profile of Jerry Brown, California Governor - Jerry Brown Bio
Even though he's big on traditional liberal issues like conservation, alternative energy, consumer protection, education, etc., Brown has always been a fiscal conservative, and especially in a way that many of us lib-ruls have no quarrel with (he left the state with $5 billion surplus). But if all that still fits your definition of a "conservative" (let alone a rightwinger), then you have some "maturity" issues yourself (among other things).
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:21 PM
 
Location: Frankfurt, Germany
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Even though he's big on traditional liberal issues like conservation, alternative energy, consumer protection, education, etc., Brown has always been a fiscal conservative, and especially in a way that many of us lib-ruls have no quarrel with. But if all that still makes him a "conservative" (let alone a rightwinger), then you have some "maturity" issues yourself (among other things).



I'm as liberal as they come, but I too have no issues with fiscal conservatives. Heck, one of our greatest presidents--Bill Clinton, a Democrat--was a fiscal conservative. He had to clean up the huge economic mess and budget deficits left by "conservatives" Reagan and Bush 1.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:32 PM
 
Location: On the "Left Coast", somewhere in "the Land of Fruits & Nuts"
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^^ Yeah, I think the OP just can't get over the fact that his old redneck heroes like Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Dwight Yoakam, etc.... have all been replaced now by Steve Jobs, John Warnock, Larry Ellison, George Clooney and the like.

Of course you can still find those kinda "Okie havens" (like Buck Owens' hangout, Bakersfield), but unfortunately they're usually the poorest parts of the state and kinda got "left behind" (like most other 'red' parts of the country)!
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:32 PM
 
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Oh this poll is hilarious. California is a liberal state not a conservative one!
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:38 PM
 
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^^ Yeah, I think the OP just can't get over the fact that his old redneck heroes like Buck Owens, Merle Haggard, Dwight Yoakam, etc.... have all been replaced now by Steve Jobs, John Warnock, Larry Ellison, George Clooney and the like.

Of course you can still find those kinda "Okie havens" (like Buck Owens' hangout, Bakersfield), but unfortunately they're usually the poorest parts of the state and kinda got "left behind" (like most other 'red' parts of the country)!
You're racism against white Americans is showing once again. You're comparing country western singers to the people you listed? When did George Clooney become a singer? I hate to be the one to tell you this but many Americans enjoy that kind of music and it hasn't been replaced by anything. Is country western music somehow racist? Would you be happier if Mariachi music became more popular nationwide? Probably so!
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:40 PM
 
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"Dips to 10.1 %"? Gee, it is 5.3% where I live.

Now who in their right mind would blame republicans for the plight of CA, which is nearly 100% democratic? Liberal policy has caused the budget woes, the industry flight, and the high unemployment in CA.

What "good things" is Brown doing? He is trying to reign in spending, as are many democratic and republican mayors in CA. One should not care about party affiliation when a politician is actually trying to reign in spending. Arnold tried to control spending as well, but was checked by the democratic senate and congress in CA at every turn.

What a laugh- blame republicans in CA! I didn't know there were any republicans in CA anymore. It is shocking that a lib would have the audacity to blame the woes of CA, created by liberal policy, on conservatives. Yet libs never take responsibility for anything themselves (see Obama), so it should not be surprising. When was the last time a liberal claimed responsibility for anything? They just cannot seem to understand, despite the dismal failures of thier policies in CA, that liberalism is inherently flawed and doomed to failure.
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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After the disastrous 8 years of a Republican governor in California, it looks like things are slightly improving under Governor Jerry Brown. He inherited a HUGE mess left by the GOP (just like Obama is cleaning up the Bush droppings).

California now leads the nation in job growth, and unemployment is declining. It's great news, considering how it was doing just fine before Arnold completely destroyed it.

California unemployment rate dips to 10.1 percent - Oroville Mercury Register
Get a life for heavens sake. You know nothing about Ca of you wouldn't even make such a statement. First of all, Arnold was a RINO if he was even that much of a Republican. The Ca senate is hugely Democrat and has been for 20 years or more and as for the unemployment rate going down or the job growth leading the country: the rate is still among the highest in the country and growth rate is based on a lot of things. As for the state doing just fine before Arnold took over, again you have no idea. i was born and raised in Ca, I still own property there and have family and friends that have not been able to get out of the state.it is Ca that screwed up the Real Estate market for starters. The taxes are out of sight and it has more poor people living there than any state in the union. As I have said, you are in Germany, I don't know how long you have been there, but unless you know what you are talking about you should talk to a few people who do...he wasn't governor for 8 years: that is a start on what you don't know. Some of us can come here, debate, disagree and still be objective enough not to make statements that actually cause others to discredit everything they say...

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Old 11-27-2012, 02:56 PM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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"Dips to 10.1 %"? Gee, it is 5.3% where I live.

Now who in their right mind would blame republicans for the plight of CA, which is nearly 100% democratic? Liberal policy has caused the budget woes, the industry flight, and the high unemployment in CA.

What "good things" is Brown doing? He is trying to reign in spending, as are many democratic and republican mayors in CA. One should not care about party affiliation when a politician is actually trying to reign in spending. Arnold tried to control spending as well, but was checked by the democratic senate and congress in CA at every turn.

What a laugh- blame republicans in CA! I didn't know there were any republicans in CA anymore. It is shocking that a lib would have the audacity to blame the woes of CA, created by liberal policy, on conservatives. Yet libs never take responsibility for anything themselves (see Obama), so it should not be surprising. When was the last time a liberal claimed responsibility for anything? They just cannot seem to understand, despite the dismal failures of thier policies in CA, that liberalism is inherently flawed and doomed to failure.
There are a few left but they are afraid to show their faces much...The ones I know just with there was a way they could escape the state..
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