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Old 11-26-2012, 09:38 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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I did. That changes nothing I said.
1. If she was so ill what was she doing traveling?
2. Why did she decline medical care?
3. Why should other passengers be required to deal with her?
4. Why should an airline be required to facilitate her needs?

I fly a lot. If you buy tickets on line, buyer beware.
I have no problem complaining to the flight attendents if a an obese person is seated next to me. I paid for my tickets and I only use my alloted space. I expect the same from who ever sits next to me.
Ever sit for 17 hours next to a wheezer? Deal with someone crowding you the entire time? I have and it sucks.
The woman paid for two seats, hence why I made the comment to you before.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:50 PM
 
Location: Pa
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The woman paid for two seats, hence why I made the comment to you before.
She paid for 2 seats for one way that has been established. Was it both ways?
The fact remains that if your health is so poor that is not the time to travel. I love travel I am proud to say that I have been to 21 countries maybe more. As much as I love it, I wouldnt travel if sick.
She owns what happened.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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Sad. But, maybe some personal responsibility is also a factor here. She was obviously ill prior to the trip, maybe on dialysis. She can barely get into a car. Planes are not designed to deal with severe medical situations like morbid obesity. What if she needed to use the restroom on the flight? There are lots of other issues here, aside from the obesity.

She should have purchased travel insurance prior to leaving the United States, with guaranteed medical flight assistance to get home.

Not seeing a doctor in the country where she was...also an issue of personal responsibility.
Totally agree. I wonder if she consulted with her doctor(s) before travelling. People who are ill and receiving ongoing treatment or pregnant women generally talk to their doctors about travel.

What if something happened on the plane and it had to make an emergency landing and the passengers had to be quickly vacated or slide down the exit chutes? Would other passengers be held back while they were extracting this woman first, or would she be last to be taken out of the plane? Would the crew be responsible for getting her off the plane?

It's a 9 hour flight, how would she relieve herself? Bathrooms barely accommodate the average size person.

So many things wrong with this and yet the woman isn't to blame, everyone else is.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:52 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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She paid for 2 seats for one way that has been established. Was it both ways?
The fact remains that if your health is so poor that is not the time to travel. I love travel I am proud to say that I have been to 21 countries maybe more. As much as I love it, I wouldnt travel if sick.
She owns what happened.
I agree with you on the not traveling when ill, although she was obviously well enough when she left the country that they allowed her to board.

The problem, as I see it, is that the airline kept trying to accommodate her, which probably gave her false hope that she could get back to the States.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:54 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Totally agree. I wonder if she consulted with her doctor(s) before travelling. People who are ill and receiving ongoing treatment or pregnant women generally talk to their doctors about travel.

What if something happened on the plane and it had to make an emergency landing and the passengers had to be quickly vacated or slide down the exit chutes? Would other passengers be held back while they were extracting this woman first, or would she be last to be taken out of the plane? Would the crew be responsible for getting her off the plane?

It's a 9 hour flight, how would she relieve herself? Bathrooms barely accommodate the average size person.

So many things wrong with this and yet the woman isn't to blame, everyone else is.
Oh so true. I am 5'10 175 pounds and bathrooms on planes are tight even for me. There are so many things wrong with this story.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:56 PM
 
Location: Lexington, Kentucky
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Yes, I feel terrible for her and her family, but it doesn't sound like she should have been traveling
like that anyway, because of how sick she was.
I hope there isn't a law suit, it would be frivolous imo.
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Old 11-26-2012, 09:58 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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The woman paid for two seats, hence why I made the comment to you before.
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Although a local fire department were brought in to help move Mrs Soltesz into three seats assigned to her, they could not lift her out of the wheelchair.
If she bought 2 seats apparently the airline was trying to accommodate her with a third seat.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Too far from home.
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I agree with you on the not traveling when ill, although she was obviously well enough when she left the country that they allowed her to board.

The problem, as I see it, is that the airline kept trying to accommodate her, which probably gave her false hope that she could get back to the States.
You don't know if she was "well enough" to travel to Hungary. As I said earlier, I would think that someone who apparently was undergoing treatment would have consulted with their doctor to get clearance to travel.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:00 PM
 
Location: Louisiana
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Hey, there's always the cargo hold.
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Old 11-26-2012, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Pa
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I agree with you on the not traveling when ill, although she was obviously well enough when she left the country that they allowed her to board.

The problem, as I see it, is that the airline kept trying to accommodate her, which probably gave her false hope that she could get back to the States.
Fair enough and I see your point. I feel she owns her mistakes and paid for it with possibly an early death.
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