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Old 11-26-2012, 05:04 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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I laughed SO hard when I read this - thanks!

... unless you were serious??
It's more like "We preach to the choir, you sing."
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:05 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Security contractors and ambassadors are two different things.

......but death remains the same
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:06 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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This guy is an idiot. You cannot equate security contractors who expect to be in harms way and a diplomat who is a civilian and represents this country. Iraq is a WAR ZONE. Libya is not.
You mean that he did not know the dangers of taking the position in the first place
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:09 PM
 
Location: The Land of Reason
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Not a war zone? One of the contractors was hit with mortar fire while operating a heavy machine gun...All the vehicles in use were apparently armored SUVs..

It was not sovereign US territory. It was a leased compound obviously being used primarily as a CIA base. It was the sovereign territory of Libya.

Has no one noticed that all those who escaped were CIA? You think the consulate was running with no state department employees?

Face it. The place was a CIA operation and the consulate provided coverage of that clandestine operation. The Ambassador was there to hold a few meeting escaping the expected demonstrations in Tripoli. So far it sounds like his death was more bad luck than bad will.

Aha! The voice of reason emerges
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:11 PM
 
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You mean that he did not know the dangers of taking the position in the first place
Oh course he knew the dangers. That's probably why he called for more security but was denied it, especially the night of the attack. The question is who gave the order to stand down?
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:12 PM
 
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This is great stuff, notice how cowardly this network is when someone goes off script and dares to tell the truth. They cut them off and end the interview.....LOL


Thomas Ricks' Accuses Fox News Of Operating As 'Wing Of The Republican Party' - YouTube
"respected" and "journalist" is an oxymoron
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:13 PM
 
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The Benghazi U.S. Consulate was considered American sovereign soil. Therefore, this was an attack on US citizens on US soil and it was considered an Act of War. This is a big difference why it needed to be hyped.
Embassies and consulates are not sovereigh soil of the country they represent. Yours is a popular misunderstanding.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Texas
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This guy is an idiot. You cannot equate security contractors who expect to be in harms way and a diplomat who is a civilian and represents this country. Iraq is a WAR ZONE. Libya is not.
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Really, this guy is an idiot yet you suggest that a symbol of America and a soft target in Libya should not think they are constantly in danger??
You really want to stick with that line of thinking??
Yes . . . because the REAL issue is that the ambassador made multiple requests for more security based on reported terrorist rumblings starting weeks before the event. The requests were not only denied but then his security force was even reduced further just prior to the event. THAT is why it was hyped. (We needed Ironman to intervene to prevent the tragedy due to the incompetence (or worse) of the administration.)

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The Benghazi U.S. Consulate was considered American sovereign soil. Therefore, this was an attack on US citizens on US soil and it was considered an Act of War. This is a big difference why it needed to be hyped.
Obama wanted no calls for war prior to the election and remains opposed after.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:22 PM
 
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Embassies and consulates are not sovereigh soil of the country they represent. Yours is a popular misunderstanding.
The Geneva Convention prohibits the host country from entering embassy or consulate property without authorization from the Ambassador.
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Old 11-26-2012, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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I can only imagine what was going on in the faux news control room.......RED ALERT, RED ALERT.......we have a CODE RED EMERGENCY. Suspend transmission and bring the hook.
This thread is not about MSNBC (faux news).
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