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Old 11-27-2012, 11:52 AM
 
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I know some of you may say this belongs in the entertainment/gaming section of C-D but hear me out. This game, Democracy 2 is extremely fun for us who love politics. Your pretty much the President/Dictator/Whatever You Crave, and you have to solve a nations problems (only one country on the game is real and that's the USA) rather it be reducing debt (for debt hawks), allowing gay marriage (liberals), growing the military to be oppressive in size (patriots), and etc. When you first look at everything, I admit it looks extremely complicated yet its fairly simple. The main objective (in my opinion) is to bring down debt in a orderly fashion, while keeping the people of your nation happy. You can choose which party you want to be, rather its Conservatives to Socialists, its all there.

Because the game/simulation is pretty random on things such as debt, sometimes you could walk into office with a budget surplus or budget deficit (which occurs most of the time) but you always have debt rather its $40 billion or $5 trillion.


I believe in a moderately sized military, high foreign aid, universal healthcare, and a strong educational system, so that's reflected in how I may have inherited a budget surplus, but took it to a budget deficit. I typically pay for my programs by cutting road expansions, building the poor's income levels, making a hefty carbon tax, and moderately increasing income tax, while reducing corporate tax (so they can expand), making initiatives for small businesses to grow, and at times reducing or increasing my labor laws.


So here a few screen shots of my gameplay (you can see that I took the budget from a surplus to a deficit):





Also in the images above, you can see what groups like me and which don't. The red circles indicate what problems are in my nation immediately after taking office while the green are the ones where I'm doing excellent in, the blue circles are pretty much data on if your doing well or not for a specific thing such as equality, gas prices, foreign relations, etc, while the black circles are what funds you allocate to programs or the particular restrictions you put on those programs. (i.e. I can decide if I want to ban guns [which parents on this game love] or let everyone have a semi-automatic, or etc) Any time you have a new idea for a program, tax, entitlement, etc click on the light bulb in the upper right corner. The new ideas can range from child care provision, to racial profiling to, from mandatory military training to speeding cameras, so it offers a good deal of ideas that can be implemented.

Well anyways, I'm sure some of you have played this simulation and it's pretty much told you how good of a leader you are for your country. I thought it would be interesting for some of us to post screenshots of how well we do as leaders of a nation (more specifically the USA), maybe a conservative can try conservative policies on the nation while a democrat/liberal can try their policies over the nation. But as a side note if you do decide to purchase this game, I'd suggest when you see the starting screen go to options and click "Enable Limited Power" to turn it off. Pretty much that just means you need certain political strength power to do one thing or the other.

For Mac users here's the link to purchase it:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/demo...12796898?mt=12
For Steam users (as a heads up if your a Mac user such as myself, I wouldn't purchase it from Steam, I did and it didn't work)
News - Daily Deal - Democracy 2, 50% off!
For Mac or PC users you can also purchase it from the official site:
Democracy 2
Or better yet, Demo the game and see if you like it or not, that's also on the site listed above.

Hopefully you read this and try the simulation once.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:04 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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To bad its not free I would love to play it
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:38 PM
 
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You could always try the demo, it allows you play the full-game but only in one nation.
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Old 11-27-2012, 12:49 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Yep did the demo. Now I HAVE to buy it...23$ WHEW! But it was fun! I love making policy changes and deleting most taxes or lowering them to 0%. My people were starting to like the policies to!
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Old 11-27-2012, 02:25 PM
 
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Yep did the demo. Now I HAVE to buy it...23$ WHEW! But it was fun! I love making policy changes and deleting most taxes or lowering them to 0%. My people were starting to like the policies to!
Did you really do the demo? lol

And yeah I wish I could control the individual taxes on the wealthy, middle-class, and poor, taxation between the three would be far different. I can only imagine your revenue with 0% taxes. Sometimes I attempt to build a utopia where I don't care about how cash is spent, like I'll drop the taxes to very fair/low then build a extremely large military, max out programs such as the Space Program, State Housing, Healthcare, Education, Etc. you can't imagine how large my deficit had been.

Everyone typically likes me aside from motorists and religious folk.

The motorists hate me because I:
*I don't fund road expansion but more along the lines of fixing existing infrastructure.
*I tax petrol to the max it can be
*I put emission controls in place for vehicles.
*Etc.

The Religious don't like me particularly because I:
*Don't fund their schools much (most of the time I don't even have a policy in place to fund faith-based schools)
*Put emphasis on evolution rather than a balanced approach
*I allow prostitution (I typically fund extra research with my it) & marijuana but a very minimum.
*Etc.



As you can see in the image above compared to the first picture in this thread, I did in fact make the deficit go up but I made the revenue increase dramatically as well.

The beginning of my Presidency:
Income: $50 billion Expenses: $45 billion Debt: $74 billion

Six Months into my Presidency:
Income: $62 billion Expenses: $85 billion Debt: $97 billion

Towards the end of my Presidency:
Income: $142 billion Expenses: $113 billion Debt: $89 billion

So I like my approach of raising the debt for a little while, while increasing the overall quality of living (which includes ending poverty, lowering unemployment to virtually zero, having the poor income literally sky rocket, while building universal health care, a great educational system, a fairly well military, etc) to make the place ever more advanced.
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Old 11-27-2012, 03:36 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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I am gonna try and buy it when I get paid on Friday dunno yet...got so much stuff that needs paid for.
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Old 11-27-2012, 05:23 PM
 
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I am gonna try and buy it when I get paid on Friday dunno yet...got so much stuff that needs paid for.
Trust me; I know the feeling. Bills come over games any day, I was riding the train from DC to NC and I needed some entertainment so I bought the game not only from Steam but the App Store as well. I was pissed that I had to do that especially as a college student that can't really afford it.
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Old 11-28-2012, 11:43 PM
 
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I finally had my first perfect country where I won 98% or so of the vote, I actually reduced the debt so well that I ran into surplus mode for a month (I allowed the debt to go back up to $25-30 billion though just because debt is always good if kept at a minimum) . Unemployment was at zero, our international relations were high, my GDP was extremely high, there was zero crime, zero pollution, universal health care, students with laptops, etc.

To start off, I inherited the country with these statistics:
Income: 44 Billion Expenses: 47.55 billion Debt: $83.50 billion

So obviously I was intending to run the debt up and expenses to pay for my programs which included universal health care, a large military, heavy spending on state housing, students with laptops etc. with a combination of revenue cuts. So over a few month period I ran the debt up accidentally too high, here are the numbers:

Income: 34 Billion Expenses $55.00 Billion Debt: $224.01 billion

Seeing those numbers and knowing my country only allowed somewhere in the 300 billion's in debt, I automatically kicked in spending cuts and increased revenue. I don't have the numbers for what I did, but I know the debt remained high for plenty of my presidency. When I eventually balanced the budget and got the debt going down steadily, I came up with ways to increase our GDP to historic levels then came a recession that made my GDP plummet and yet again my budget was facing a extreme deficit. So the first thing I did was abolish Carbon, and Corporate Taxes which made the GDP grow during a recession. I gave more money for foreign aid while reducing the military to smallest it had been in my presidency, I cut back on state housing, cut back on education, ended universal healthcare, and etc and my GDP exploded to the highest it had ever been, reminder the economy was in a recession. With a combination of tax increases, I yet again balanced the budget but this time I kept the budget deficit within $2 billion. What that meant was if I needed expense increases it had to be within $2 billion of revenue, so I ended up with a budget deficit again because I began pumping more funds into my programs after the recession was done. My income literally boomed while I kept expenses fairly continuos, I ended up with a budget surplus of $33 at one point.
So eventually my debt was erased and I had a surplus of cash, I dropped my revenues dramatically increased spending, etc to create my own deficit of $25 billion and my presidency ended with great approval ratings amongst everyone.


When I first balanced the budget

GDP exploding during a recession

Zero unemployment

Debt Completely Gone, so Tax Cuts to create a deficit. (I really only cut taxes to keep create more wealth among the middle-class)

Election Turnout.

Voter Turnout.

If it were only this easy to be President. lol
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:15 AM
 
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Wow, looks cool! I remember an old game with the same concept, but MUCH more simple... forget what it was called, but you basically got to run a Presidential campaign. Anyway, I might have to check out this one - since I love simulation games, and am currently bored with the ones I have (and won). Not sure I have the political know-how, but I guess some random decisions could be fun.
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Old 11-29-2012, 05:43 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Lol the socialist party eh? Mine was the Freedom Party.
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