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Old 11-28-2012, 09:59 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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Keep in mind that the only reason there's an expiration date on those tax cuts at all, is because various Democrats refused to vote for it unless he put in an expiration date, ten years after he passed them. Originally, George Bush designed them to be permanent cuts, that would not expire.

Republicans have since successfully enacted delays in the expiration but have been unable to eliminate it, due to Democrat insistence that they expire.

Now we are coming up on that (delayed) expiration date, on Jan. 1, 2013. Republicans have again been fighting to get rid of the expiration, but Democrats have been insisting that the expiration take place. Most recently, the Democrat have been saying that they must expire for higher incomes only, while Republicans have stuck to their insistence that nothing expire - that the tax cuts remain permanent.

In a crowning absurdity, Democrat have now announced that it's Republicans' fault that the tax cuts will expire! And this after more than ten years of Republicans trying to get them to get rid of the expiration date and make the cuts permanent, while Democrats, after putting the expiration date in in the first place, have steadfastly fought to make sure the DID expire.

You voted for it, Demmies. Now you can lie in it. And they do, they do.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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Here's hoping we roll right off the "curb"..Americans have already said they'd overwhelmingly blame congress, the tax rates on the rich would go up and the republicans would be forced to explain why they wont pass a cut for the middle class. Great leverage for Dems. Lose, lose for repubicans.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:04 AM
 
Location: Where they serve real ale.
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Republicans could have decided to negotiate. They got clobbered in the election but they continued with their arrogant "my way or the highway" mentality. Republicans are responsible because they are not negotiating in good faith.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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Republicans could have decided to negotiate. They got clobbered in the election but they continued with their arrogant "my way or the highway" mentality. Republicans are responsible because they are not negotiating in good faith.
Neither side appears to really be negotiating.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Keep in mind that the only reason there's an expiration date on those tax cuts at all, is because various Democrats refused to vote for it unless he put in an expiration date, ten years after he passed them. Originally, George Bush designed them to be permanent cuts, that would not expire.

Republicans have since successfully enacted delays in the expiration but have been unable to eliminate it, due to Democrat insistence that they expire.

Now we are coming up on that (delayed) expiration date, on Jan. 1, 2013. Republicans have again been fighting to get rid of the expiration, but Democrats have been insisting that the expiration take place. Most recently, the Democrat have been saying that they must expire for higher incomes only, while Republicans have stuck to their insistence that nothing expire - that the tax cuts remain permanent.

In a crowning absurdity, Democrat have now announced that it's Republicans' fault that the tax cuts will expire! And this after more than ten years of Republicans trying to get them to get rid of the expiration date and make the cuts permanent, while Democrats, after putting the expiration date in in the first place, have steadfastly fought to make sure the DID expire.

You voted for it, Demmies. Now you can lie in it. And they do, they do.
The voting public is too dumb to realize that actions (votes) have consequences. The MSM will tell them to "blame the Repubs" and they will go along.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:13 AM
 
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I thinik De,ocrats incluidng Obama do t really mind lettigall o the Bush txacuts expire. One only has to remmebr them advocatig that and sayig that thet were not cuts for nayone but the wealthy.Why would they whe it bring levels to clinton rates.Tax and spend is the democratic way. The only proposal thqt address the deficit is Simpson/Bowles. The cliff was invented b both parties afterall andthey knew what they were agreeig to and I think its cover for sayig we avoid the cliff and puttigthreu some hald measure that does really solve the deficit problem long term.They say they avioded what they created;spin.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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I thinik De,ocrats incluidng Obama do t really mind lettigall o the Bush txacuts expire. One only has to remmebr them advocatig that and sayig that thet were not cuts for nayone but the wealthy.Why would they whe it bring levels to clinton rates.Tax and spend is the democratic way. The only proposal thqt address the deficit is Simpson/Bowles. The cliff was invented b both parties afterall andthey knew what they were agreeig to and I think its cover for sayig we avoid the cliff and puttigthreu some hald measure that does really solve the deficit problem long term.They say they avioded what they created;spin.
Please, please, PLEASE use spellcheck.

Please.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:19 AM
 
Location: San Diego, CA
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BTW, when I hear this constant litany of "Bush tax cuts", I am struck by the tendency to refer to political acts by their author, no matter how many times a later President affirmed them by extending them.

Except, if Obama manages to let his extensions expire despite all Republicans' attempts to make them permanent, that act won't be called the Obama tax increases.

With this in mind, the more proper name for the original act, should be "The Bush rollbacks of the Clinton tax increases of 1993", shouldn't they?
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Rational World Park
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BTW, when I hear this constant litany of "Bush tax cuts", I am struck by the tendency to refer to political acts by their author, no matter how many times a later President affirmed them by extending them.

Except, if Obama manages to let his extensions expire despite all Republicans' attempts to make them permanent, that act won't be called the Obama tax increases.

With this in mind, the more proper name for the original act, should be "The Bush rollbacks of the Clinton tax increases of 1993", shouldn't they?
LMAO..This is one of the most hilarious posts ever written.
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Old 11-28-2012, 10:27 AM
 
Location: 77441
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the bush tax cuts expired two years ago, you must be talking about the obama tax cuts...
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