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Old 11-29-2012, 11:28 AM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Palestinians certain to win recognition as a state - Yahoo! News

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Old 11-29-2012, 11:46 AM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Yep, because there are only 15 Arab Muslim states -- not nearly enough, there needs to be one more. Hooray for Arab Muslim state #16!
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Old 11-29-2012, 11:59 AM
 
Location: Northern CA
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I'd like to think this is a win for Palestine, but I'm not sure. Abbas and Hamas are at odds, right? I think Abbas is more pro-western than Hamas, so I wouldn't want Palestine to become another puppet regime for the MB.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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Good. Now, when that "state's" leadership launches rockets and murders civilians in a neighboring country, it is a declaration of war. Israel no longer has a need to "play nice" with civilians they have been attempting to avoid hitting while attacking what are currently classified as terrorists. In a declared war, they can wipe "Palistine" out and end the murders once and for all.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:06 PM
 
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Well we can thank Obama for backing the rebels in Egypt for the MB being in power there now. I got a feeling same thing is going to happen in Syria if he gets his way again.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:08 PM
 
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This is not a satisfying solution. Essentially, the right to return is being given up, which is why the world is for it and why Israel and America - while trying to look as opposing the plan - are secretly with it.

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Yep, because there are only 15 Arab Muslim states -- not nearly enough, there needs to be one more. Hooray for Arab Muslim state #16!
It would be Arab secular state if not for Israel. The Zionists have pushed secularism in the Middle East back 100 years.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:10 PM
 
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How?
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:10 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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Good. Now, when that "state's" leadership launches rockets and murders civilians in a neighboring country, it is a declaration of war. Israel no longer has a need to "play nice" with civilians they have been attempting to avoid hitting while attacking what are currently classified as terrorists. In a declared war, they can wipe "Palistine" out and end the murders once and for all.
Abbas isn't the one defending Palestine from Israeli aggression and war crimes. That would be Hamas. Obviously the west bank and Gaza need to be under 1 government not 2 different ones. Oh and this also means the Palestinians can take Israel to the ICC for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Using white phosphorous comes to mind,targeting civilians...yeah.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:11 PM
 
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Well we can thank Obama for backing the rebels in Egypt for the MB being in power there now. I got a feeling same thing is going to happen in Syria if he gets his way again.
Isn't it funny how most Americans think the bad guy is Bashar al-Assad? Our media doesn't report massacres done by the rebels, only those "allegedly" done by the Syrian Army. If Syrians were really against Bashar, why are most of his people still supporting him? Why hasn't he fallen after two years of war? No dictator in the region lasted remotely this long during the Arab Spring.

The rebels are banning alcohol in areas they've "liberated" and forcing women to wear headscarves. They are bombing churches and mosques. They are talking about genocide of Syrian Christians and Syrian Alawites. They are looking to end the secular state Assad has maintained in Syria. And American taxpayer money is doing this.

But no, Assad is the bad guy in the conflict.
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Old 11-29-2012, 12:12 PM
 
Location: North Carolina
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They get recognized as a state. They can take Israel to the ICC for war crimes etc...not like it will likely do any good since the US and Israel seem to think they are above any rulings by the ICC and UN resolutions.They are both getting to big for their britches. Need taken down a few notches.
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