Obamas to spend holidays in Hawaii at $4 million cost to taxpayers (fast food, minimum wage)

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by jmqueen

But ... but ... but ... Benghazi! Socialism! 47%! Leeches! Black people! Obamaphones! (Did I forget anything?)

LOL... I can't rep you again right now, but that's the best summary I've seen in a while!

Besides, are we really going to have this debate every year? I'm pretty sure they've gone to Hawaii for the holidays every year (or at least 1-2 others), just as most Presidents go to their home states for the holidays. It's not his fault he happens to come from an "exotic" locale, which requires more travel than Bush's Texas ranch or Clinton's home in Arkansas. Get over it.

[gizmo980]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Am I the only conservative that is getting tired of other right-wingers just plain bashing the president? Give it a rest already!

Apparently so! I guess your screen name says it all.

[Factsplease]

Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed

Am I the only conservative that is getting tired of other right-wingers just plain bashing the president? Give it a rest already! Obama is from Hawaii, is it his fault that he's not from ****ing Maine? Would liberals start to bash me if I was elected president and I decided to spent the holidays in my Caribbean hometown?

Well you'll probably be shunned and have your life threatened now for going against your fellow Conservatives and being mature. I am constantly hearing Conservatives complain that every time one of them criticizes the president they are accused of being racist. Clearly everyone who votes Republican is not racist, but these idiotic non-issues being brought up over and over again don't show Conservatives in a good light. Not that this is racist and not that the other side is completely innocent, but it is easy for people to go there with there is so much faux outrage toward the POTUS on a daily basis. I think there are enough valid issues to discuss and debate about. Why must we hear about this type of nonsense every day?

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by Factsplease

Well you'll probably be shunned and have your life threatened now for going against your fellow Conservatives and being mature. I am constantly hearing Conservatives complain that every time one of them criticizes the president they are accused of being racist. Clearly everyone who votes Republican is not racist, but these idiotic non-issues being brought up over and over again don't show Conservatives in a good light. Not that this is racist and not that the other side is completely innocent, but it is easy for people to go there with there is so much faux outrage toward the POTUS on a daily basis. I think there are enough valid issues to discuss and debate about. Why must we hear about this type of nonsense every day?

It certainly makes them look pretty stupid.

Ken

[softblueyz]

Originally Posted by LordBalfor

Really?

"In an effort to "prevent Palestinians from attacking towns in southern Israel with missiles," Israel today undertook its third day of offensive military airstrikes in the Palestinian territory of Gaza, raising the death toll to more than 300. The Palestinian casualty numbers have been described as the highest over such a brief period since the 1967 Six-Day war. Scores of Israelis have been wounded -- and at least one killed -- by rocket attacks fired by Palestinians. Israeli Defense Minister Ehud Barak called the situation "all out war."

While Bush has been briefed on the situation by Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and National Security Adviser Stephen Hadley, he has opted not to interrupt his final vacation as president to make a public statement on the crisis. For someone who has enjoyed the most vacation days as sitting president -- including days spent relaxing in comfort during Hurricane Katrina and in the lead-up to 9/11 -- it shouldn't come as a huge surprise that Bush prioritizes vacationing over crisis management"

Bush Enjoys Vacation As Middle East Crisis Escalates

At 4:00 PM on Sunday, August 28th, "National Hurricane Center Meteorologist Chris Lauer said Katrina was still on track to hit the New Orleans area as a devastating Category 5 hurricane as its eye comes ashore" on Monday morning, August 29th, Gordon Russell wrote in The Times-Picayune.

Also, on Sunday, August 28th, Max Mayfield, still "worried about Hurricane Katrina ... even talked about the force of Katrina during a video conference call to President Bush at his ranch in Crawford, Texas."

"In his first extensive interview since resigning as FEMA director" on September 12th, Michael D. Brown "declined to blame President Bush or the White House for his removal or for the flawed response," New York Times' David D. Kirkpatrick and Scott Shane wrote September 15, 2005.

"But Mr. Brown's account, in which he described making 'a blur of calls' all week to Mr. Chertoff, Mr. Card and Mr. Hagin, suggested that Mr. Bush, or at least his top aides, were informed early and repeatedly by the top federal official at the scene that state and local authorities were overwhelmed and that the overall response was going badly," they wrote.

Caught on Tape

The Associated Press reported March 1, 2006, that film footage it had obtained, "along with seven days of transcripts of briefings ... show in excruciating detail that while federal officials anticipated the tragedy that unfolded in New Orleans and elsewhere along the Gulf Coast, they were fatally slow to realize they had not mustered enough resources to deal with the unprecedented disaster.

"Linked by secure video, Bush expressed a confidence on Aug. 28 that starkly contrasted with the dire warnings his disaster chief and numerous federal, state and local officials provided during the four days before the storm."

"In dramatic and agonizing terms, federal disaster officials warned President Bush and his homeland security chief that Hurricane Katrina could breach levees, put lives at risk in New Orleans' Superdome and overwhelm rescuers, according to video footage," AP reported. "Bush didn't ask any questions during the final briefing before Katrina struck on Aug. 29, but he assured soon-to-be-battered state officials: 'We are fully prepared'.

George W. Bush: Hurricane Katrina - SourceWatch

Ken

Prioritizes vacation over a national disaster. Is that something he had control over? What would he have done - make an appearance like Obama? What exactly did Obama do regarding Sandy other than give lip service and make an appearance. It was nothing more than Obama campaigning. On vacation while Israel/Palestinian doing what they usually do? Is that something he had control over?

I asked if there was a pending fiscal cliff and discussion on the national debt. Something that has a huge impact on the COUNTRY and something that would require his presence to find solutions to fix the ECONOMY.

[LordBalfor]

Originally Posted by softblueyz

Prioritizes vacation over a national disaster. Is that something he had control over? What would he have done - make an appearance like Obama? What exactly did Obama do regarding Sandy other than give lip service and make an appearance. It was nothing more than Obama campaigning. On vacation while Israel/Palestinian doing what they usually do? Is that something he had control over?

I asked if there was a pending fiscal cliff and discussion on the national debt. Something that has a huge impact on the COUNTRY and something that would require his presence to find solutions to fix the ECONOMY.

First off - AGAIN - despite the hype it's NOT a "cliff". The world doesn't end on Jan 1 if there is not yet an agreement. All that happens at that point is that the processes BEGIN which will result in the budget cuts and tax increases starting to go into effect as the new year progresses. What part of that do you NOT understand?

Secondly, while the President CAN contribute to the process, the budget is forged by CONGRESS and it is primarily THEIR responsibility to hash it out - NOT the Presidents'.

Thirdly, there are many folks who think we SHOULD go off the "fiscal cliff" since it may be the ONLY way that Congress can be FORCED to actually make substantial changes to the budget. Once we've actually started down the "slope" THEN adjustments to tax rates etc can be done SELECTIVELY.

Ken

[Phil306]

According to liberal/socialists in this country, conservatives are "out of touch" with the common person. Obama campaigned on a "people first" platform. The "everyday working Joe." "What is better for them." "I know. I am for the people."

How many people in the United States can and, moreover, will afford a Christmas vacation in Hawaii? How close is Obama to the family in Michigan or Pennsylvania, buried in 10 feet of snow, at zero degrees or lower, while Obama is sunning himself on a beach?

Obama is no "common man." He is just as filthy rich as Romney and all the other 1% the liberals complain about. He is going to be on a beach, not just a beach, but a beach shut down for HIM and his FAMILY ONLY. He will have a private beach, for his using. How many of you have gone to Hawaii and had your own private beach?

Wow. Bush went to Crawford, Texas. Let me see here, Crawford Texas VS Hawaii? What is the perception of how the "common man" can afford this vacation? After all, the democrats represent the common man, right?

Please, Obama is no "common man" and has no clue how the other 99% of us live, anymore then Romney does. He has and will continue to live the life of privledge, 99.5% of us will never see and/or experience.

[alphamale]

Socialism is for the people, not the socialists.

[Fox Terrier]

Originally Posted by Phil306

Please, Obama is no "common man" and has no clue how the other 99% of us live, anymore then Romney does. He has and will continue to live the life of privledge, 99.5% of us will never see and/or experience.

That is not true. He did not grow up wealthy. He did not inherit wealth.

He worked to get where he is now. I thought that was the supreme mantra of the conservatives, that people should work hard and smart if they want to be rich.

Why do you think differently about Obama?

[Oleg Bach]

The left is the new right...so much for walking the walk and the whole benevolent socialist thing. It is much like the communist leaders in the old Soviet Union..they preached monetary equality but all had luxury get aways.