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If the burger flippers were given the so called 'living wage' of $15 an hour, should the francise owner-
Fire half the staff?
Double the price of everything on the menu? How much will you pay for a Big Mac?
How does the business owner make up the difference for lost operating cash flow?
btw- not too far from where these people were demonstrating, the 'Stage' deli, in operation for many decades, is closing its doors. Reason- big increase in rent. Even people in NYC have their limits in what they will pay for a roast beef sandwich.
And how much does the franchise owner now have to pay the people above the burger flippers, since doubling the salary of burger flippers would put them pretty far ahead of other managers and more skilled staff.
That comes to $1753 a month, $21,306 a year. At minimum wage, working 40 hours a week, that's only $15,080 GROSS. That leaves you $6226 in the hole per year. You also didn't include utilities in your breakdown, which is another substantial cost.
Conversely, $15/hr would leave you with $31,200 gross.
You just did the math at current minimum wage. Current minimum wage is not living wage in NYC. That's why you're calculating a negative outcome.
Housing includes utilities.
The numbers I quoted come to $26,521 gross, or $12.75/hour. That's way off from the $31,200 they are demanding.
I think they have a good case. Try surviving in NYC on $8.90 an hour, the median wage for food service or food preparation worker in New York City.
This whole discussion is stupid. If a person can't survive in NYC on $8.90 an hour, they need to leave New York City. Come to Oklahoma City. The cost of living is half as high as it is in NYC or less, and you'll get paid practically the same wage. Problem solved.
If enough workers leave NYC because they are underpaid, then there will be a shortage of workers, a shortage of workers means employers will pay more. Problem solved. You're welcome.
In 10 year's time burger flipping will be obsolete.
Order taking will be obsolete.
The demand for better wages will push businesses to invest in technology to replace most of the jobs within fast food sector.
Wrong. The technology to completely automate the retail sector has existed for decades. All we see are the paltry attempts to social engineer the public to accept automated service. Automated kiosks at most supermarkets are a small percentage of the total checkouts and are still 'manned' at a live operator for every four kiosks. ATM's at banks and credit unions are manned by offsite call centers. One reason is that there isn't really any cost savings over human operators. You can hold human operators to a minimum wage that does not increase with inflation but the tech companies that develop the automated systems want big dollars and service contracts. They end up costing much more than human workers. Provided the human workers can be brow-beaten into accepting sub-standard pay and forgo any benefits. Which they can. Thus in 20 years time we will still be using low wage human labor for many jobs that could be automated.
pizzed off fast food employees equals a lot of special sauce in new york
One of the many reasons that people shouldn't be eating that filth. Horrible for you even if prepared "properly" I cant imagine what else goes on though.
If the burger flippers were given the so called 'living wage' of $15 an hour, should the francise owner-
Fire half the staff?
Double the price of everything on the menu? How much will you pay for a Big Mac?
How does the business owner make up the difference for lost operating cash flow?
btw- not too far from where these people were demonstrating, the 'Stage' deli, in operation for many decades, is closing its doors. Reason- big increase in rent. Even people in NYC have their limits in what they will pay for a roast beef sandwich.
Of course. Duh.
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Originally Posted by NJBest
You just did the math at current minimum wage. Current minimum wage is not living wage in NYC.
That's kinda my point.
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The numbers I quoted come to $26,521 gross, or $12.75/hour. That's way off from the $31,200 they are demanding.
Your point is that they need $15/hr. My point is that they could use more but $15/hr is too high. This is what you are disputing.
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