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Old 11-30-2012, 11:15 AM
 
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Would heavier taxation of the Super Rich really hurt their lifestyles all that much?



It is a common belief that we need to tax the rich to pay for what is represented in the above chart.

The federal employees who work in the divisions represented on the chart do NOT want to see their jobs go away.

Higher taxes mean we save good paying government jobs.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:20 AM
 
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Federal spending should be restricted to taxes accumulated through tariffs on foreign goods and royalties from the lease of federal lands ONLY. Everything else should be a state issue.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:22 AM
 
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24% sounds good. BTW the post WW2 average is 25.5% and our post WW2 average for taxes is 24.5% but right now, due to all the rounds of tax cuts in recent decades, we're down to just 18% of GDP going to taxes. THAT is the reason we have a deficit folks.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:25 AM
 
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Government spending needs to rise substantially to invest heavily in more social programs according to the president. Obama's re-election shows you that America wants more government.

I think this chart shows you why he'd like to extract cash from the super rich to the tune of $1.2 trillion in new taxes:

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Old 11-30-2012, 11:26 AM
 
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24% sounds good. BTW the post WW2 average is 25.5% and our post WW2 average for taxes is 24.5% but right now, due to all the rounds of tax cuts in recent decades, we're down to just 18% of GDP going to taxes. THAT is the reason we have a deficit folks.
The deficit was eliminated in the 1990s with a slight tax increase, welfare reform and a very hot economy.

To pin one reason as to why a deficit did not exist is negligent.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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24% sounds good. BTW the post WW2 average is 25.5% and our post WW2 average for taxes is 24.5% but right now, due to all the rounds of tax cuts in recent decades, we're down to just 18% of GDP going to taxes. THAT is the reason we have a deficit folks.
I thought I read somewhere that the post-WWII average was 35% of total revenue spent.

25% sounds WAY too low. A 10% increase in wealth taxes looks to be on the table now.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:29 AM
 
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Cool chart, looks like a galaxy which is appropriate given the out of this world spending politicians like to do.
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Old 11-30-2012, 11:34 AM
 
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Federal spending should be restricted to taxes accumulated through tariffs on foreign goods and royalties from the lease of federal lands ONLY. Everything else should be a state issue.
That would have worked oh so well during WWII.
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:23 PM
 
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I thought I read somewhere that the post-WWII average was 35% of total revenue spent.
25% sounds WAY too low. A 10% increase in wealth taxes looks to be on the table now.
Average Revenue and Spending as a percentage of GDP by decade...
1951-1960
Revenue: 17.5%
Spending: 17.8%

1961-1970
Revenue: 18.0%
Spending: 18.8%

1971-1980
Revenue: 17.9%
Spending: 20.3%

1981-1990
Revenue: 18.2%
Spending: 22.2%

1991-2000
Revenue: 18.8%
Spending: 20.3%

2001-2010
Revenue: 17.1%
Spending: 20.6%

The 1981-1990 and 2001-2010 have the worst differential (4% and 3.5% respectively).
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Old 11-30-2012, 12:28 PM
 
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Would heavier taxation of the Super Rich really hurt their lifestyles all that much?



It is a common belief that we need to tax the rich to pay for what is represented in the above chart.

The federal employees who work in the divisions represented on the chart do NOT want to see their jobs go away.

Higher taxes mean we save good paying government jobs.

2% no more no less, and no borrowing at all. if the goverment cannot do it on 2% of GDP unless in a congress declared war (with a maximum of 2 years on any declared war), then anyone in goverment does not need to be in goverment at all.
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