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View Poll Results: Should it Be Legal to buy Alcohol and Tobacco with Food Stamps?
Yes 18 12.59%
No 123 86.01%
Unsure 2 1.40%
Voters: 143. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-30-2012, 09:29 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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I had never thought much about it before, but today I drove by a beer and wine shop that had a big sign saying "we accept food stamps." This was very surprising and upsetting to me. In my opinion, food stamps should be there solely as a safety net to prevent people from starving, they shouldn't enable you to buy things that are not basic life necessities (i.e. luxuries). Luxuries should be something that one can only acquire if one has disposable income that comes from working and contributing to society. By allowing people these luxuries without working for them, you allow people to be comfortable on food stamps, and don't put pressure on them to get jobs and get off of them. If the government were to allow people to only buy the basic necessities with food stamps, the government would put pressure on people to get jobs in order to get what they want but cannot get. This seems relatively obvious to me, and I was somewhat appalled to find out that you can buy alcohol with food stamps. Thoughts?
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:41 PM
 
Location: Southern Willamette Valley, Oregon
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An astounding NO! I don't even think people should be allowed to buy junk food like chips, candy, and soda with welfare cards/stamps.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Northern California
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You can't use them to buy alcohol and tobacco products. Look at the USDA website.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:46 PM
 
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Of course not, food stamps should only be used for fresh fruits, vegetables, and meat.
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:46 PM
 
Location: where people are either too stupid to leave or too stuck to move
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No
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Old 11-30-2012, 09:56 PM
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I agree. Though I often side with the left, which it seems is the only side that chooses to assist the needy, I have often seen or heard about cases that show ... Sometimes in loud refrain, the amount of waste, and abuse of the system.

It's one of the things I hate about the right, which endorse a thing called "smaller government" and I feel the term should be "smarter and wiser government".

But I also hate the wastefulness and often thoughtless excesses of the left.

This is a small piece of why I pull my hair out at both sides, as they cannot reckon a meaningful and centered compromise in this nation's woes.

Alcohol? Hmmm - might be one reason somebody is unhireable.

Cigarettes? If you can't support yourself now, why should society add on your future healthcare bills?

I feel wholeheartedly that the safety met should be there and be strong for those who are in need. But the stupidity in it's current implementation is sometimes sickening.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:06 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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Milton Friedman showed long ago that the most effective form of welfare is a 'negative income tax,' i.e. give them the cash and let them decide how to dispose of it. Ironically the left now the new puritan, insisting on telling people how and on what they should dispose of their income.


Milton Friedman - The Negative Income Tax - YouTube
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Apple Valley Calif
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I don't drink or smoke, so I sure don't want to buy that stuff for someone else..!
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:42 PM
 
Location: FL
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Originally Posted by Cleverfield View Post
I had never thought much about it before, but today I drove by a beer and wine shop that had a big sign saying "we accept food stamps." This was very surprising and upsetting to me. In my opinion, food stamps should be there solely as a safety net to prevent people from starving, they shouldn't enable you to buy things that are not basic life necessities (i.e. luxuries). Luxuries should be something that one can only acquire if one has disposable income that comes from working and contributing to society. By allowing people these luxuries without working for them, you allow people to be comfortable on food stamps, and don't put pressure on them to get jobs and get off of them. If the government were to allow people to only buy the basic necessities with food stamps, the government would put pressure on people to get jobs in order to get what they want but cannot get. This seems relatively obvious to me, and I was somewhat appalled to find out that you can buy alcohol with food stamps. Thoughts?
You can't buy taxable items with food stamps, not even toilet paper.
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Old 11-30-2012, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Cleveland
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You can't buy taxable items with food stamps, not even toilet paper.
This must be a state by state thing, because Minnesota for instances taxes food, but not clothing.
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