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Just get your State to make collective bargaining illegal for public sector unions and the problem takes care of itself.
LOL good luck with that.
Here in Wisconsin, the teachers got a tiny cut in benefits and screamed like six year old spoiled brats.
Abolish all public unions...including police as they are pretty worthless in this state.
We just need to get rid of the corrupted politicians. Without the corrupted politicians, there will be no public union.
Public union should made illegal for the obvious reason there is no profit involve. Taxpayers get the bill. At least in a private sector union, the union has an incentive to keep the company going or else the union die.
I think colective bargaining is fine.It has worked fine in many localities and states.But when the unions dominate politcs in a state or city and their is no effective respresentatition there is definely a problem.Remmeber who bargianed those contratcs;people you voted for i state and cities with the problems.Usually you find thay alos have other sepcvial interest problem that cause finacial problems.
I have been thinking. Alot of states that are run by Public Sector unions have been facing massive debt issues and underfunded pensions. California/Illinois/New York come to mind here.
Public Sector unions also have been some of the most greedy unions you can ever think of. As John Stosel said Public Sector Unions take the taxpayers money. Then recycle it into the democrats reelection funds then the Democrats give the Unions bonuses in pay and the cycle repeats itself. The person that is ultimately screwed is YOU the Taxpayer.
Do you think its time to just get rid of these Public Sector Unions.
This has NOTHING to do with Private Sector Unions. This is only about PUBLIC sector unions. so please dont mix that up
Curious to see your thoughts and comments
The fact that politicians choose to underfund the pensions is not the fault of unions. It's the fault of politicians who choose to underfund the pensions is not the fault of unions.
In a world where the top 0.1% have had tremendous gains in income, while the rest (including union members, have been treading water) we have these blame the working guy threads.
Most Americans in 2010 paid far less in total taxes — federal, state and local — than they would have paid 30 years ago. According to an analysis by The New York Times, the combination of all income taxes, sales taxes and property taxes took a smaller share of their income than it took from households with the same inflation-adjusted income in 1980. http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/20...80s/?src=twrhp
There once was a common belief that public sector employees should not make as much as their private sector counterparts. It's stuff like this that gives rise to unions.
Segments of public sector have been unionized for more than 100 years. I think the Police were the first to organize.
FDR, a Democrat, was seriously opposed to public sector unions and held firm.
NY, followed by Wisconsin and then other states began granting public employees the right to bargain.
In 1962, JFK granted federal employees the right to collective bargaining and the rest is history.
Speaking only for my state, it was easier for polititions on either side, to grant public unions better benefits and pensions than were being awarded in the private sector. I remember how it was that bus drivers bargained for a paid day off to celebrate their birthday. The public applauded when a strike was averted or ended. No one gave any thought to how all of this was going to be funded over the long haul. Politiions come and go through revolving doors and are not going to be in public office when it's time to face the music.'And here we are at ground zero for underfunded pensions and nowhere to go.
We have one senator who is advocating for the state's right to declare bankruptcy and in doing so, renegotiate all public union contracts and pensions. Stay tuned.
Instead of stripping rights, benefits and reducing pay for public service unions and have a race to the bottom, the private sector should fight to regain what was common at one time, good pay, pensions and medical benefits.
The fact that politicians choose to underfund the pensions is not the fault of unions. It's the fault of politicians who choose to underfund the pensions is not the fault of unions.
While I am not a fan of unions in this day and age, I agree with you. I do not begrudge anyone for asking for more. Polititians are not known for long term thinking and they do the darndest things to maintain their popularity.
At the same time,the general public and public union employees have been asleep at the wheel because like SS and Medicare, we knew the train was coming and yet did nothing. None of it is sustainable on an acturarial basis.
I feel bad for everyone, cept the polititians who came before. May they rot.
Instead of stripping rights, benefits and reducing pay for public service unions and have a race to the bottom, the private sector should fight to regain what was common at one time, good pay, pensions and medical benefits.
Medium-large corporations routinely hold bidding wars within and across states. They will build or not- hire or not, dependeing on who gives them the best deal in terms of long term tax abatement. Their shareholders hold their feet to the fires to get the best deal. Municipalities donate land to large corporations to build their stores full of stuff manufactured elsewhere in hopes of creating 100 new jobs. Are we reaching a tipping point where it's financially more cost effective to maintain a welfare state than it is to use taxes to provide incentives to corporations to hire the masses? ( A part of the challenge in the middle east is millions of unemployed young men with nowhere to go with their hatred.)
Right now, it's a seller's market in employment. Employers have substantially more options than employees.
In ten or so years, one is not likely to find a burger flipper at Mc Donalds or elsewhere. We will continue to use technology to eliminate unskilled labor jobs and manufacturing will continue to chase the global employment market.
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