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Old 12-01-2012, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Did Karl Rove try to steal the election?

google Karl Rove-Anonymous
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:35 PM
 
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I think its the best con.theory around and beats any thing the right is throwing on the wall. But I am just an old guy.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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According to Anonymous, the loose internet watchdog group of hackers, Rove did. Supposedly, they will be releasing all their tracking records to Wikileaks soon. Until then, who knows for sure?

But if their claim that Rove's hackers were able to get around the voting machine's firewalls, and that Anonymous was able to hack their hack and set up some new firewalls that stopped Rove's boys is true, the FBI will certainly be combing through the files. I'm sure a couple of the Anonymous group will come forth as a guide to the FBI if it all proves out.

Until then, it's all speculation. But if one of Rove's crew is indicted, I think the hackers will all topple like a house of cards to avoid prison. Following the chain of command will take some time, but if it can be traced all the way to the top, Karl Rove could do 30 years in prison.
Rove may have given himself away on election night on Fox with his absolute confidence that there would be a huge change in the votes starting around 11:00 p.m. election night.

The Ohio voting machines went down at that time in 2008; at the time, the crash was thought to be nothing but a glitch, but Anonymous also claimed Rove's bunch hacked the machines back then, switching Democratic votes to Republican votes. This was the occasion that made Anonymous suspicious, and they have been working on the trail since then.
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Old 12-01-2012, 12:55 PM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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Just saw it today. I was wondering on election day why people were checking their machines to make sure the number changed when the ballot went in.

Not being computer savy,I find this interesting.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Texas
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According to Anonymous, the loose internet watchdog group of hackers, Rove did. Supposedly, they will be releasing all their tracking records to Wikileaks soon. Until then, who knows for sure?

But if their claim that Rove's hackers were able to get around the voting machine's firewalls, and that Anonymous was able to hack their hack and set up some new firewalls that stopped Rove's boys is true, the FBI will certainly be combing through the files. I'm sure a couple of the Anonymous group will come forth as a guide to the FBI if it all proves out.
It got me thinking.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says they can get into a computer and change things. How do we know anonymous didn't change the results?
I wonder why wouldn't they expose the hack Rove did as soon as they found out?
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:21 PM
 
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And the left calls reps crazy for believing obama stole the election. This isnt the 1st time dems have accused the right of it! Can I have permission to call you left crazy?
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:25 PM
 
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It got me thinking.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says they can get into a computer and change things. How do we know anonymous didn't change the results?
I wonder why wouldn't they expose the hack Rove did as soon as they found out?
Perhaps they don't want to go to jail. Hacking is illegal regardless of intent. Turning over evidence could also mean turning in themselves and therefore they could be exposing themselves to prosecution regardless of their claimed rioghteousness. We probably will never know the truth.
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Old 12-01-2012, 01:26 PM
 
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It got me thinking.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says they can get into a computer and change things. How do we know anonymous didn't change the results?
I wonder why wouldn't they expose the hack Rove did as soon as they found out?
I wonder if what they do is not legal. Hacking into programs is commonplace, the number of sec. updates you get is huge

Good question.
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Old 12-01-2012, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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It got me thinking.
I wouldn't trust anyone who says they can get into a computer and change things. How do we know anonymous didn't change the results?
I wonder why wouldn't they expose the hack Rove did as soon as they found out?
They did expose the Rove hack the day after the election.
But during election night they were busy building new firewalls to block the Rove hack. Apparently, Anonymous put up firewalls earlier, but a few hours later, Rove's geeks were able to get around the first ones.

That's all according to them, of course. We will soon all learn about it, I'm sure, if they carry out their announced plans to release all files and documents.

For sure, if all this is true, Anonymous has the programming power to change election results, just as Rove's bunch had. Anonymous is an internet vigilante group; they played a big part in the earlier release of the Pentagon and CIA files regarding the illegal detentions that went on in Iraq. I think anything is possible when it comes to the internet these days for good or bad.

There was a tremendous amount of skill at play if all this is true; if the Anonymous hackers are good enough to have accomplished what they claim, I'm sure they are just as expert at covering their cyber tracks. I tend to doubt they will be uncovered. One may come forth, though. AS to whether they broke any laws, that will be a matter for the courts, especially if they were acting on behalf of the voters of Ohio.
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Old 12-01-2012, 06:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Oh I would love to see Karl Rove going to federal prison, maybe one day we will get lucky and get to see that happen.
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