Assault Weapons (Iraq, soldier, solution, school)

[Finn_Jarber]

I think the military is ready to dump the small 5.56 mm rounds they use today and move on to something bigger. Some troops in Afghanistan have already been given a new version of the M14 because the M4 just didn't have ny punch at longer distances. The small rounds are nice because you can carry so much more of them, but if they are not doing to job, then they are not doing the job.

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

No, it is not uneducated. Romney made the "assult weapons" ban permanent and claims such weapons are "designed for killing". Defend it if you must, I don't care. I don't like in MA, and never will.

The Romney Assault Weapons Ban That Wasn’t | Shall Not Be Questioned

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[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

I think the military is ready to dump the small 5.56 mm rounds they use today and move on to something bigger. Some troops in Afghanistan have already been given a new version of the M14 because the M4 just didn't have ny punch at longer distances. The small rounds are nice because you can carry so much more of them, but if they are not doing to job, then they are not doing the job.

75 grain 556 rounds do very nice at 600 meters.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

75 grain 556 rounds do very nice at 600 meters.

The military requested for a new version of the M14 because the M4/M16 was ineffective at longer range. Some modified M14s were delivered, while most troops use the M4

http://170.14.136.22:15871/cgi-bin/b...ion=1562688155

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

The Romney Assault Weapons Ban That Wasn’t | Shall Not Be Questioned

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Defend gun bans all you want, but the ban is in place and it is permanent. Thanks to Mitt, and everyone who supported him.

You cannot own an AR-15 in MA because of Romney.

Governor Mitt Romney has signed into law a permanent assault weapons ban that he says will make it harder for criminals to get their hands on these guns.

"Deadly assault weapons have no place in Massachusetts," Romney said, at a bill signing ceremony on July 1 with legislators, sportsmen's groups and gun safety advocates. "These guns are not made for recreation or self-defense. They are instruments of destruction with the sole purpose of hunting down and killing people."

Like the federal assault weapons ban, the state ban, put in place in 1998, was scheduled to expire in September. The new law ensures these deadly weapons, including AK-47s, UZIs and Mac-10 rifles, are permanently prohibited in Massachusetts no matter what happens on the federal level.

"We are pleased to mark an important victory in the fight against crime," said Lieutenant Governor Kerry Healey. "The most important job of state government is ensuring public safety. Governor Romney and I are determined to do whatever it takes to stop the flood of dangerous weapons into our cities and towns and to make Massachusetts safer for law-abiding citizens."

“Assault weapon”, shall have the same meaning as a semiautomatic assault weapon as defined in the federal Public Safety and Recreational Firearms Use Protection Act, 18 U.S.C. section 921(a)(30) as appearing in such section on September 13, 1994, and shall include, but not be limited to, any of the weapons, or copies or duplicates of the weapons, of any caliber, known as: (i) Avtomat Kalashnikov (AK) (all models); (ii) Action Arms Israeli Military Industries UZI and Galil; (iii) Beretta Ar70 (SC-70); (iv) Colt AR-15; (v) Fabrique National FN/FAL, FN/LAR and FNC; (vi) SWD M-10, M-11, M-11/9 and M-12; (vi) Steyr AUG; (vii) INTRATEC TEC-9, TEC-DC9 and TEC-22; and (viii) revolving cylinder shotguns, such as, or similar to, the Street Sweeper and Striker 12; provided
http://www.malegislature.gov/Laws/Ge...140/Section121

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

Defend gun bans all you want, but the ban is in place and it is permanent. Thanks to Mitt, and everyone who supported him.

I didnt vote for him, Gary Johnson

[monkeywrenching]

Originally Posted by Finn_Jarber

The military requested for a new version of the M14 because the M4/M16 was ineffective at longer range.

I have heard in certain circles that the 6.8 might be a good choice.

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

I have heard in certain circles that the 6.8 might be a good choice.

Maybe. I attached an article about the new M14. http://170.14.136.22:15871/cgi-bin/b...ion=1562688155

[GregW]

FWIW - No law is permanent although repealing Mitt's ban in Massachusetts is unlikely due to the voter's preferences.

I do, even as one of this board's liberals, that banning "Assault Weapons" is completely absurd. I would like to see weapons reform start with repealing the Federal 1934 Firearms Act. It makes sense to regulate addictive substances like Tobacco and Alcohol but why regulate weapons? Everyone should have at least one as the "authorities” have said they are nor responsible for protecting us from violent assault. Why should only the criminals be properly armed? Why should only the cops?

[Finn_Jarber]

Originally Posted by monkeywrenching

I didnt vote for him, Gary Johnson

Good. Then don't defend him negociating away people's rights.